photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State

I gently poo poo-ed AI photo editing but then tried it. Since my other software is from skylum, I dowloaded he free trial of photolemur 3. On he plus side, using photolemur 3 my photos come out better than my manually adjusted ones and It's pretty cheap to buy .

On the minus side, I've found no way to batch process and the AI analysis, presentation of adustments results for your approval and your selection of strength of the changes, and finally after your approval, actually making and saving the changes seems like it takes a long time for each indivdual photo. I haven' timed the app from the time a photo is loaded to completion and saving of the completed AI adjustments but it seems like it's almost a minute on a 18 mp sensor image (Loaded as a SOOC jpeg). and well more than a minute on a 24 mp SOOC RAW.

FWIW I'm using photolemur 3 as a plug in to Apples photos App. on a mid 2010 version of a 21 inch iMac running OS 10.13.6

photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

If one wants to rely on AI for photo processing, be prepared to reduce your status from photographer to camera toter and operator.
--Bob

photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State

Have you tried it or are you talking without actual knowledge? I understand and partially share your feelings of fear about AI dehumanizing an art form, but it helps me be a better photographer in that it allows me to learn to see the potential of a scene much more quickly than I could learn it without AI examples from my own camera. It helps me learn to previsualize a scene before I press the shutter button.
I thought my post processing was pretty good until photolemur 3 showed me differently. AI taught me that I have much to learn.


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mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Whatever works for you.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

I have it, but rarely use it. I find that it does a so so job and there is very little you can do to adjust it.

R.G. Loc: Scotland

I would say that any kind of artificial assistance should be left until after you've learned how to do your own processing. IMO that includes presets and any other kind of one-click processing. If you start using these things before you've properly learned the basics of post processing, your own learning process is going to suffer, possibly to the point where it'll stagnate (apart from learning how to use those one-click wonders).

If you are going to use them, at the very least try to work out what the preset/AI software has done and how it did it. In other words try to work out how you could reproduce the same effect. If you do that every time you use it, you'll learn something that can advance your own general processing capabilities. But if you get into the habit of using them mindlessly your own skills set will suffer.

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

Photolemur for $35 OK, I have asked my congressperson to include a copy for me in the upcoming national budget. Will give it a look.

Ai is not to be confused with artificial intelligence too often displayed by my X-Wife to embarrassingly impress people. Ai is a "we tried this a million times and we see that this it the general cure of a problem."

There is one Ai which goes thru the claim of Young President Bush who claimed he could look into Putin's eyes and see he had a good soul. Google developed the program and it is called Deep Dreams, it reveals the soul of man even if there is no soul. Google claims it to be "Human Collaboration Ai" Even works on Trump and shows the "Dorian Gray" generated painting that will go on the Whitehouse Outhouse Wall.
https://deepdreamgenerator.com/

I am not a Democrat nor Republican rather a Topazian Faithful. Topaz keeping their upgrade word has given me free Ai update to Topaz Adjust which works in their latest edition of the Free Topaz Studio. If you have Adjust, then download the new Adjust Ai and just confirm your ownership. I installed it last night hand have not yet tried it. First like Trump I must have my morning cup of Covfefe.**

Ai is the future and even the old programs will now be labeled Ai even if not Ai. Get your 2020 Ai Calendar early; same as the regular Calendar but costs 25% more.

**https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/31/covfefe-is-a-word-now-deal-with-it

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

I worked on an AI project in about 1990-1991. It became apparent to me that AI is largely BS. It is programming and data mining and comparison in my experience. Maybe it has advanced in the past 30 years but I called BS and moved away from it. To me the Cloud is BS too...we just called them data centers for decades...marketing...

Your mileage may vary.

cmcaroffino Loc: Sebring, FL

I have Photolemur and it can be used as a stand alone as well as an extension of Photos. When used as a stand alone you can batch process but it is slow when exporting the photos. I don't use it much Luminar does the same thing but I agree it does a good job and the strength can be adjusted with a slider. Ai has improved a lot the last few years.

Nikon1201

You can also start shooting in auto. I find Lightroom and Photoshop can do everything that most or all AI programs can For $9.99 or even $20.00 a month I’m staying with LR , I have it , it works for me and I’m not out trying to find something else just to get rid of Adobe , some have 3 programs to accomplish what LR and PS can.

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

"If one wants to rely on AI for photo processing, be prepared to reduce your status from photographer to camera toter and operator. "

Bob, editing programs have come a long way since around the year 2000 when I first began to get the feeling of what a digital photography was. Technology is rapidly evolving and changing the way we do things. Did you ever imagine matrix metering could give you freedom from your exposures? It is true that it fails at times but for the beginner photographer it is capable of a pretty large proportion of acceptable exposures. By the way, I do not use it very often preferring more conventional methods of exposing my subjects.

Artificial intelligence is taking over, not only with our cameras but also with editing programs. In my humble experience and after using Topaz Adjust AI and DeNoise Ai I had to come to the conclusion that both are excellent programs able to do what it is very difficult for me to do when it comes to improve and enhance an image. There are other options like using your present editor without the intervention of AI and there is also the case of using AI and modifying the final results to your liking. I do that often and you can see a sample in the landscape section of an image I made in Sedona and I processed using AI to my taste.

I know that you use medium or large format cameras and I wonder if you will call a toter those photographers like me that use Olympus Pen bodies. A gentleman I know who always used large format cameras referred to 35mm camera bodies as toys. He had a stroke, took over a year to recover partially from that stroke and now he uses a medium format digital body due to his limitations. Are the images he is making inferior? The answer is NO and he seems to be very happy using the new camera.

Technology has changed completely our approach to photography. The "digital darkroom" offer us the capabilities we were not able to use in the past to edit our images. I am sure technology will not stand still, it will continue to develop for the benefit of us photographers.
The future of photography looks brilliant.

NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC

So I guess that means if you use any post processing, then you're just a camera toter and operator.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

My impression too. People always need new terms to dazzle their friends and seduce others into buying your product. I cannot wrap my mind around the claim that AI can really create any intellect beyond what the human programmers give it.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

You nailed it. You have to learn photography from the bottom up and realize no short cuts exist. I have serious reservations about products like AI and Topaz. They are good if you cannot or do not want to understand photography. I recommend to OP he stick with Lightroom or the equivalent.