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Have you made the switch from Canon to Nikon and what was it like?
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Jun 25, 2019 10:56:48   #
jdkoerner Loc: New Yori
 
Hey guys, don't hold back and let me know what you really think!

I am of course very grateful for your immediate and impassioned feedback. That Nikon deal is officially toast. So at this point I will consider the suggestions I've received re: noise reduction, but I will also be looking at full frame Canons, and anyone who has any suggestions on that score is free to throw in their two cents.

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Jun 25, 2019 11:02:14   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
I have a D200 I'll sell to you for $900. I wouldn't if it was my only one but I have 2 of them. I could use the $900, I recently (today) got a D610, my first full frame and I need some full frame lenses. The D200 and D300 are both good cameras. But they can't compete with the newer technology. And they are abundantly available for a couple hundred dollars. And they are both crop frame.

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Jun 25, 2019 11:02:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jdkoerner wrote:
Hey guys, don't hold back and let me know what you really think!

I am of course very grateful for your immediate and impassioned feedback. That Nikon deal is officially toast. So at this point I will consider the suggestions I've received re: noise reduction, but I will also be looking at full frame Canons, and anyone who has any suggestions on that score is free to throw in their two cents.


Also consider that if your lenses are APS-C, you'll need a new set for the full-frame camera.
APS-C lenses on a full frame will vignette.

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Jun 25, 2019 11:04:34   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
jdkoerner wrote:
Hey guys, don't hold back and let me know what you really think!

I am of course very grateful for your immediate and impassioned feedback. That Nikon deal is officially toast. So at this point I will consider the suggestions I've received re: noise reduction, but I will also be looking at full frame Canons, and anyone who has any suggestions on that score is free to throw in their two cents.


If we use $1000 as the target price, look at a used 6D and used EF 24-105 f/4L IS. This would be a general purpose body and lens that puts you in a full-frame body. More knowledge about your interests and examples of the limitations presented by the T4i would be needed to give anything other than suggestions of how to address your GAS.

You might be better served looking at your current lenses and considering which, if any, should be replaced with an EF version, both for performance on your Rebel body and to prepare for changing the body last, rather than first.

If you've been exposing to the left (?) with an EOS body, you might discover a completely different result with ETTR techniques that could put an end to the FF idea.

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Jun 25, 2019 11:05:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Longshadow wrote:
Also consider that if your lenses are APS-C, you'll need a new set for the full-frame camera.
APS-C lenses on a full frame will vignette.


Not on a Canon body, where the Canon EF-S lens cannot be mounted to the full-frame body.

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Jun 25, 2019 11:23:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Not on a Canon body, where the Canon EF-S lens cannot be mounted to the full-frame body.


Yea, I forgot about that.
(I only have an APS-C camera (red AND white dots), a Canon 50, and my Sigma APS-C zoom.)

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Jun 25, 2019 13:46:55   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
jdkoerner wrote:
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recently a friend offered me a Nikon D 300 with 4200 activations that had only been used in his studio for $1000. Of course it is nothing like a Canon in terms of where all the dials and buttons are. It has a monitor but no touch screen, which I am practiced in using to make setting changes on the fly. I also use the Canon touch screen swung out so that I can frame shots from over my head or at my knees, and this monitor, as far as I can tell, doesn't do that either. I shoot mostly photojournalism.

The reason for even considering a new camera in the first place is to go to full frame: recent discussions of noise reduction software convince me that I have to start at the source, and I have a t4i, which is cropped, and so has a much lower native iso.

While you may feel free to comment on any aspect of this question the topic is: if you've made the switch what was it like? Was muscle memory an issue? Was learning an entirely new system difficult? Are you glad you switched?
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recen... (show quote)


Yes, I switched to Nikon from Canon for several reasons. But I would NOT recommend buying an old D300 for $1000. For $100 yes. $200 is average for a good copy of that body.

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Jun 25, 2019 14:20:27   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Just got a new 6D for less than $1000. Already have (2) 60Ds and a 3Ti and could not be happier as I too wanted to taste FF. Having all FF lenses will now give me wider choices of FOV with crop bodies as well as FF. 6D has a wonderful sensor which even beats the mark III in low light situations; Upgraded 6D Mark II IMHO doesn't compare sensor wise. The 6D will be considered a classic some day so WHY switch to Nikon at this stage of the game. You will not get much better than a 6D with top Canon L lenses.... good luck with your decisions. Bob

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Jun 25, 2019 14:46:42   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Also consider that if your lenses are APS-C, you'll need a new set for the full-frame camera.
APS-C lenses on a full frame will vignette.


As a matter of fact, Canon EF-S lenses (made for APS-C cameras) will not mount on their full frame bodies, but other brands made for APS-C Canon bodies will.

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Jun 25, 2019 15:00:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
PHRubin wrote:
As a matter of fact, Canon EF-S lenses (made for APS-C cameras) will not mount on their full frame bodies, but other brands made for APS-C Canon bodies will.

I believe only if the color dots match.
If a camera only has a white alignment dot, a red dot lens will not mount (and vice-versa).

EDIT: My Sigma only has a red dot. It will not go on a body with only a white dot. My APS-C camera body has both red and white alignment dots.

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Jun 25, 2019 15:24:17   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
No, I have not made the switch, I simply own and use both Canon and Nikon gear. Not a big deal.

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Jun 25, 2019 15:43:19   #
Abo
 
jdkoerner wrote:
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recently a friend offered me a Nikon D 300 with 4200 activations that had only been used in his studio for $1000. Of course it is nothing like a Canon in terms of where all the dials and buttons are. It has a monitor but no touch screen, which I am practiced in using to make setting changes on the fly. I also use the Canon touch screen swung out so that I can frame shots from over my head or at my knees, and this monitor, as far as I can tell, doesn't do that either. I shoot mostly photojournalism.

The reason for even considering a new camera in the first place is to go to full frame: recent discussions of noise reduction software convince me that I have to start at the source, and I have a t4i, which is cropped, and so has a much lower native iso.

While you may feel free to comment on any aspect of this question the topic is: if you've made the switch what was it like? Was muscle memory an issue? Was learning an entirely new system difficult? Are you glad you switched?
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recen... (show quote)


Your "friend" knows cameras if he shoots in a studio.

So he knows a mint D300 is worth about $300 not $1000

Here's an almost new D700 which is far superior in every respect (especially sensor size, the most important issue imho) than a D300 for $603 USD:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nikon-D-D700-12-1-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-Black-Body-Only-Shutter-count-1820/332796599163?epid=109865133&hash=item4d7c391b7b:g:dWoAAOSwAANY5RfQ

I shoot with a D700 and I reckon it's a better camera than I am a Photographer.

I want a digital Fujifilm, however I have no intention of selling my D700. You may understand why
I'm not selling it, if you download the image (it is at about 67% resolution to fit a 1920 pixel display) shot with it below.


(Download)

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Jun 25, 2019 15:47:20   #
jdkoerner Loc: New Yori
 
Not that I don't trust you, but I trusted my friend and one lesson here is that you should always check for yourself. D300 is not a full framed camera. I truly don't believe my friend, whom I have known for 20 years, was trying to put one over on me, considering we are going to continue to do business. It's just that he should have known better about both the format and the price point, which he said was between the highest and lowest he found on ebay.

Rather than point any of that out, I simply said that it would not meet my needs as a photojournalist, and he said no problem. Let the next potential buyer give him the bad news.

Hail hydra! Hail ugly hedgehog!

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Jun 25, 2019 16:06:06   #
Abo
 
jdkoerner wrote:
Not that I don't trust you, but I trusted my friend and one lesson here is that you should always check for yourself. D300 is not a full framed camera. I truly don't believe my friend, whom I have known for 20 years, was trying to put one over on me, considering we are going to continue to do business. It's just that he should have known better about both the format and the price point, which he said was between the highest and lowest he found on ebay.

Rather than point any of that out, I simply said that it would not meet my needs as a photojournalist, and he said no problem. Let the next potential buyer give him the bad news.

Hail hydra! Hail ugly hedgehog!
Not that I don't trust you, but I trusted my frien... (show quote)


Are you addressing me?

It would help if you hit the quote button when responding to a post in the thread JD

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Jun 25, 2019 16:25:38   #
Abo
 
Abo wrote:
You may understand why
I'm not selling it, if you download the image (it is at about 67% resolution to fit a 1920 pixel display) shot with it below.


It seems I have made an error with the arithmetic. The pixel count of the image is only about 20%
of the resolution of the camera. I'll find the original file and see whats going on... I may have cropped
the image a bit as well as resizing it.

I'm kinda puzzled so I'm on a mission... TBC

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