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Jun 23, 2019 10:17:29   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
NO, not even when coming back in from Cuba.

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Jun 23, 2019 10:43:35   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
davidrb wrote:
Many years ago, when the USA was still a major manufacturing power we had to get this form for any and every item we had that was made outside of the US. Wrist watches were the hot item then and if we wore a foreign made watch customs was legally able to charge if the item was not documented as having been taxed one time. The air war in Viet Nam was still going on and I was in and out of the zone about every 10 days. That meant Tokyo and Okinawa, the two biggest toy stores in the world. We all carried items of concern and the documentation we needed to prove taxes had been paid. Now, 50 years later the USA produces little other than bull shit and hot air, and both are difficult to regulate. Customs agent are chasing coffee grounds and almost everything we buy is made over-seas. Congress feels this is a piss-ant problem and doesn't care on way or another. Keep in mind that a good photographer prepares themself for all contingencies. Ian Flemming once created a "license to kill" for his alter-ego James Bond. He had no idea the U. S. Customs agent already possessed such a thing. It's true, you can look it up.
Many years ago, when the USA was still a major man... (show quote)


Sorry my friend but your post makes no sense to me at all. I served two tours in Vietnam and sent or brought home numerous cameras, watches, and so on. Never had any problem with customs at all. Was never even asked for any paperwork. I would love to see your documentation of the customs agents having a license to kill though. I can just see some agent now, trying to shoot me because I brought a Rolex watch home without declaring anything at all.

Dennis

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Jun 23, 2019 10:44:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
davidrb wrote:
The U. S. Constitution proves this statement incorrect.


Uh huh. What part of the Constitution are you referring to?

Dennis

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Jun 23, 2019 10:52:58   #
sabfish
 
Years ago, I used to do this. I am retired and have made trips all over the world in the last 10 years: Australia, New Zealand, Italy, France, Croatia, Germany, etc. I typically traveled with a Nikon DSLR and a couple of lenses, plus a point and shoot. Not once has a customs officer asked me what was in my camera bag. I would not worry about. These days, they are worried about other things.

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Jun 23, 2019 11:00:16   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
I have filled in the form for 3 bodies, lenses, tripod, etc and had it checked/signed by CBP at our airport but never had the form checked upon return from Africa, Costa Rica, Australia, New Zealand, etc. However, I have had lengthy equipment checks done by LAX/TSA to ensure that all my lenses and bodies were what they purported to be rather than bombs. All stuff were in backpack and carried on board. The one time you don't fill out the form is probably the one time you'll have to prove you registered your gear before leaving the country.

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Jun 23, 2019 11:13:24   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I have heard of people being checked, but in all my international travels I have never had the equipment checked

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Jun 23, 2019 11:19:02   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
aberthet wrote:
Has anyone encountered issues upon returning to the US with the US CBP concerning your photography equipment? They could assume you may have bought the equipment abroad and may ask you to pay duty.
I know the CBP has a form (CBP form 4457) you can fill out prior to travelling abroad where you can list all your equipment by type, model, and serial numbers. The only problem with that is it requires you to go to a US Customs office with all the equipment so an officer can verify the information and stamp the form. US CBP offices are mostly located at international airports (AOE) which could be far away from where you live.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/368/~/registering-equipment%2C-computer%2C-camera%2C-laptops%2C-etc.-prior-to-traveling
Has anyone encountered issues upon returning to th... (show quote)


When I traveled internationally with a lot of camera gear, I simply registered it with US Customs, prior to leaving. It wasn't a big deal.

Once the form is filled out and has been verified, it becomes part of your passport and makes re-entry with your gear a lot quicker and easier.

It was some years ago now, but back then they were primarily watching for people buying overseas to avoid import duties. You're allowed a certain dollar amount of duty free purchases... If I recall correctly, $1500 US... But that may have changed. (Keep your receipts, if you make a purchase.)

I don't think you'd have much trouble with a reasonably small kit of gear... one camera, a couple lenses and a few accessories. (I was carrying four or five cameras, around a dozen lenses, several flashes, 100 or more rolls of film, etc.)

You also won't likely have any problem if your gear shows some normal wear and tear. When it comes to import duties, they're looking for brand new items, in particular.

Whether or not you'll be questioned also depends upon the country you're coming from, as import duties vary. It might have changed, but at one time there was a 30% tariff on cameras being imported from Asia or Europe. But if bringing the item from Canada there was no tariff, even when it was an item made in Asia or Europe.

Even if it's registered, you still may need to prove that it's working camera equipment and not some sort of bomb in disguise, in today's world.

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Jun 23, 2019 11:34:15   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
chrissybabe wrote:
In New Zealand you might need this form (or the NZ equiv) since the customs here are paranoid that something might get into the country without having GST paid. I suspect that customs rarely bother, however with the renewed interest here re GST (making overseas suppliers charge GST which they are then meant to remit back to NZ) and recent changes to your systems re paying State sales tax it may only be a matter of time. However once filled in you can use the same form year after year. We haven't bothered yet but it would pay to keep receipts with serial numbers listed and keep these with the customs forms.
I can see down the track you guys having border posts set up at each State boundary to prevent anybody from getting away with paying their tax.
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We have a commerce clause in the constitution that would not allow the checkpoints on the state borders with very few exceptions ie; fruit brought to a state that could be damaged by pests or disease.

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Jun 23, 2019 12:06:30   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
clint f. wrote:
We have a commerce clause in the constitution that would not allow the checkpoints on the state borders with very few exceptions ie; fruit brought to a state that could be damaged by pests or disease.


Exactly, such as bringing fruit into California from other states. But even at that, I travel into and out of California often and have never been stopped, just waved right through. The plates on my truck are from Idaho.

Dennis

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Jun 23, 2019 12:09:24   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
In the old days, taking electronic equipment in and out of Mexico was a hassle but not more. In recent years, I have never had any issues with camera equipment upon return from outside the US of A.

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Jun 23, 2019 12:44:48   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
aberthet wrote:
Has anyone encountered issues upon returning to the US with the US CBP concerning your photography equipment? They could assume you may have bought the equipment abroad and may ask you to pay duty.
I know the CBP has a form (CBP form 4457) you can fill out prior to travelling abroad where you can list all your equipment by type, model, and serial numbers. The only problem with that is it requires you to go to a US Customs office with all the equipment so an officer can verify the information and stamp the form. US CBP offices are mostly located at international airports (AOE) which could be far away from where you live.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/368/~/registering-equipment%2C-computer%2C-camera%2C-laptops%2C-etc.-prior-to-traveling
Has anyone encountered issues upon returning to th... (show quote)


Never had an issue. My gear always sails through customs and no one has ever asked me where I bought it.

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Jun 23, 2019 12:54:06   #
LouV Loc: Juno Beach, FL
 
I just returned from the U.K. with a backpack full of camera equipment. None of my bags were checked. For what it’s worth I have Global Entry, which I very highly recommend, but even when I travelled internationally before I had it, I never had a problem.

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Jun 23, 2019 14:00:32   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
aberthet wrote:
Has anyone encountered issues upon returning to the US with the US CBP concerning your photography equipment? They could assume you may have bought the equipment abroad and may ask you to pay duty.
I know the CBP has a form (CBP form 4457) you can fill out prior to travelling abroad where you can list all your equipment by type, model, and serial numbers. The only problem with that is it requires you to go to a US Customs office with all the equipment so an officer can verify the information and stamp the form. US CBP offices are mostly located at international airports (AOE) which could be far away from where you live.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/368/~/registering-equipment%2C-computer%2C-camera%2C-laptops%2C-etc.-prior-to-traveling
Has anyone encountered issues upon returning to th... (show quote)


As a last resort you can refer to the model/serial number which will, unless you bought gray market gear, tell them that the item was sold in the US. The only exception I see would be if a member of the US Military or a dependent purchased gear in a PX. It would still bear a US export model/serial number. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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Jun 23, 2019 14:22:08   #
cascoly Loc: seattle
 
decades ago this was a problem, but nowadays it's no problem - I travel internationally 3-4 times a year and have never had a problem; they ask for laptops and phones to be x rayed separately, but camera in case just goes right thru w no questions.

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Jun 23, 2019 14:22:43   #
Selene03
 
I have traveled many places with cameras and never been asked about them, but I don't take a lot of gear with me--at most a camera and a couple of lenses, maybe a gorilla pod. The only country where I have had any issues was Brazil, where they carefully note cameras and computers you have with you when arrive and then make sure you still have them when you leave. But that is a whole different issue--it was Brazil wanting to make sure you were not bringing anything in for Brazilians.

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