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Jul 3, 2019 14:35:21   #
Bill P
 
I didn't get scared by Photoshop, I got scared by the crap SW that came with my Nikon D3. That SW was designed by guys that had never taken a photo. When I got my Panasonic GX7 I converted all the proprietary files to DNG till Adove got them reverse engineered. I found the alternative, Silkypix translated by non native speakers.
And yet I never considered the raw w files to be something less than an image.

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Jul 3, 2019 16:26:05   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Bill P wrote:
I didn't get scared by Photoshop, I got scared by the crap SW that came with my Nikon D3. That SW was designed by guys that had never taken a photo. When I got my Panasonic GX7 I converted all the proprietary files to DNG till Adove got them reverse engineered. I found the alternative, Silkypix translated by non native speakers.
And yet I never considered the raw w files to be something less than an image.


I was hesitant to start using software from a camera manufacturer, but Canon's DPP is excellent. I assumed that Nikon users had more of a problem based on people's comments here.

Mike

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Jul 3, 2019 17:05:44   #
Bill P
 
Mike you've got it right. I don't know anything about Canon SW, but Nikon's is a joke. Why if a camera company chooses to outsource it's SW, it does it like Boeing did it with the 737 Max is beyond me.

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Jul 3, 2019 18:02:37   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Bill P wrote:
Mike you've got it right. I don't know anything about Canon SW, but Nikon's is a joke. Why if a camera company chooses to outsource it's SW, it does it like Boeing did it with the 737 Max is beyond me.


That's a shame.

Mike

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Jul 3, 2019 18:04:30   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
duplicate

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Jul 3, 2019 18:10:36   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
TheShoe wrote:
Sometimes simple is best.

I will give you two scenarios.

1. You process a raw file using a "raw converter" program to create a TIFF, DNG, or JPEG. You then process the resulting file through an image printing program which has as its output all of the commands for the chosen display device.
2. You process the raw file using a new program that converts directly to the device commands. In essence, you combine the function of the raw converter and the creation of the display into a single program.

Question 1: What is the image file in the second scenario? It can only be the raw file as that was the only input file.
Question 2: Why is the second scenario not used? Simple. The second process defined in the first scenario was already developed and a mature process, so it became efficient to convert raw files to one of the defined formats rather than reinventing that part of the process for each new raw format.

And the files are nothing but meaningless streams of ones and zeros absent interpretation by a program that gives structure and meaning to them.
Sometimes simple is best. br br I will give you ... (show quote)


Excellent. There is no insurmountable reason why Canon raw files could not someday be printed by Canon printers, for example. As you say, what is the image file in that scenario? It could only be the raw file as that would be the only input file.

Mike

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