Why War With Iran Is Bad For Trump — And America
Jun 22, 2019 07:46:12 #
"Ever since World War II, wars have not been kind to American presidents.
The United States didn't achieve victory in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan, and the costs of these wars in human lives and dollars were staggering.
They left bruises and tarnished legacies for the presidencies of Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.
At best, should the U.S. go to war against Iran, it will be able to muster the diplomatic and perhaps military support of four countries: the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Israel.
Otherwise, the rest of the world has been completely put off by the Trump administration's unilateralism, belligerent nationalism, its decision to leave the nuclear agreement without a compelling cause and actions that are clearly aimed at provoking a military confrontation with Iran.
A war with Iran without significant international support, and perceived to be America's fault, would leave the U.S. isolated and bearing full responsibility.
More than likely, this kind of unilateralism would hand Russia and China — and Iran — an enormous propaganda advantage and weaken U.S. leverage in the days after."
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734203649/opinion-why-war-with-iran-is-bad-for-trump-and-america
The United States didn't achieve victory in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan, and the costs of these wars in human lives and dollars were staggering.
They left bruises and tarnished legacies for the presidencies of Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.
At best, should the U.S. go to war against Iran, it will be able to muster the diplomatic and perhaps military support of four countries: the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Israel.
Otherwise, the rest of the world has been completely put off by the Trump administration's unilateralism, belligerent nationalism, its decision to leave the nuclear agreement without a compelling cause and actions that are clearly aimed at provoking a military confrontation with Iran.
A war with Iran without significant international support, and perceived to be America's fault, would leave the U.S. isolated and bearing full responsibility.
More than likely, this kind of unilateralism would hand Russia and China — and Iran — an enormous propaganda advantage and weaken U.S. leverage in the days after."
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734203649/opinion-why-war-with-iran-is-bad-for-trump-and-america
Jun 22, 2019 08:37:42 #
Gee you guys make it sound like we are in a physical war with Iran already. You better hurry and build that Bomb Shelter cause if Iran don't get you North Korea will. Let Israel and the Saudi's take care of Iran. Who cares about a drone being shot down? It is not worth a war over it.
Jun 22, 2019 09:13:38 #
incognito wrote:
Gee you guys make it sound like we are in a physical war with Iran already. You better hurry and build that Bomb Shelter cause if Iran don't get you North Korea will. Let Israel and the Saudi's take care of Iran. Who cares about a drone being shot down? It is not worth a war over it.
We were only ten(10) minutes away from a shooting war with Iran.
"Trump says he stopped Iran strike with just 10 minutes to spare because he was concerned about casualties"
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-ordered-military-strike-iran-reversed-sources/story?id=63853570
Jun 22, 2019 09:15:19 #
BigWahoo wrote:
We were only ten(10) minutes away from a shooting war with Iran.
"Trump says he stopped Iran strike with just 10 minutes to spare because he was concerned about casualties"
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-ordered-military-strike-iran-reversed-sources/story?id=63853570
"Trump says he stopped Iran strike with just 10 minutes to spare because he was concerned about casualties"
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-ordered-military-strike-iran-reversed-sources/story?id=63853570
There is NO war you fool.
Jun 22, 2019 09:21:04 #
Ohhh my... guess what... it still didn't happen!!! So we will just have to wait for the next salvo and maybe your wish will come true
Jun 22, 2019 12:08:21 #
incognito wrote:
Ohhh my... guess what... it still didn't happen!!! So we will just have to wait for the next salvo and maybe your wish will come true
BigWahoo is nuts and a war monger.
Jun 22, 2019 13:28:29 #
trainspotter
Loc: Oregon
"without a compelling cause,without a compelling cause,without a compelling cause,without a compelling cause"...WTF do you know....were YOU there?.....no your face was buried in CNN.
Jun 22, 2019 14:14:05 #
EyeSawYou wrote:
BigWahoo is nuts and a war monger.
Where did I ever say I wanted Trump to start a war.
What I have said is that Trump came within 10 minutes of starting a shooting war.
Jun 22, 2019 14:15:18 #
BigWahoo wrote:
Where did I ever say I wanted to go to war.
What I have said is that Trump came within 10 minutes of starting a shooting war.
What I have said is that Trump came within 10 minutes of starting a shooting war.
Yup, and you appear to me disappointed that Trump didn't "go to war" which was never going to happen anyway.
Jun 22, 2019 14:24:27 #
EyeSawYou wrote:
Yup, and you appear to me disappointed that Trump didn't "go to war" which was never going to happen anyway.
No I am disappointed that Trump who campaigned on ending wars has surrounded himself with hawks who almost convinced him to start a war.
Anyone that wants a war is a fool.
Jun 22, 2019 14:25:49 #
We do need to protect shipping in the area and we need to do it in concert with our allies.
Unfortunately Trump has insulted and alienated many of our allies.
Unfortunately Trump has insulted and alienated many of our allies.
Jun 22, 2019 14:38:27 #
BigWahoo wrote:
No I am disappointed that Trump who campaigned on ending wars has surrounded himself with hawks who almost convinced him to start a war.
Anyone that wants a war is a fool.
Anyone that wants a war is a fool.
OMFG, there is NO war and NO war will be started by President Trump, are you dense? No evidence that any of Trumps advisors try to convince Trump to go to war with Iran.
Jun 22, 2019 14:39:23 #
BigWahoo wrote:
We do need to protect shipping in the area and we need to do it in concert with our allies.
Unfortunately Trump has insulted and alienated many of our allies.
Unfortunately Trump has insulted and alienated many of our allies.
LOL pure nonsense, our Allies will work with us on this.....stay off drugs or hatred man.
Jun 22, 2019 18:09:21 #
Jun 22, 2019 18:43:28 #
BigWahoo wrote:
Look up John Bolton
You have evidence that Bolton made attempts to try to convince President Trump to go to war with Iran?
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