More gun violence in Florida
Aug 24, 2012 13:47:43 #
These senior citizens in Forida just don't seem to get it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9o3vhKoF8
Maybe the Democrats haven't been clear enough about the rights of the poor disenfranchised villains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9o3vhKoF8
Maybe the Democrats haven't been clear enough about the rights of the poor disenfranchised villains.
Aug 24, 2012 15:42:14 #
Aug 24, 2012 15:51:32 #
Kit Lens wrote:
So tell me. How do you know Grandpa wasn't a democrat. I am and I have a gun permit.
I don't. I was just making a sarcastic remark directed to a thread that was on here a few days ago. There were a large number of libs suggesting that senior citizens should have there guns taken away after a certain age. It was very insulting to the older members of the forum. It was also a dig at those that would have us all give up our guns just on principle. Don't take it personally 8-)
Aug 24, 2012 16:00:05 #
I have no problem with the Castle Doctrine. Many States are coming to the understanding that the rights of an average civilian to defend his personal well being or that of others is not the responsibility of the Police. The Police are there to protect and serve the community as a whole and not the individual.
The issue I have with the Florida internet cafe case is that the legally armed civilian chased down and shot the robbers as they retreated. This is where the line is drawn between defense and assault.
The issue I have with the Florida internet cafe case is that the legally armed civilian chased down and shot the robbers as they retreated. This is where the line is drawn between defense and assault.
Aug 24, 2012 16:01:55 #
Wabbit
Loc: Arizona Desert
ted45 wrote:
These senior citizens in Forida just don't seem to get it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9o3vhKoF8
Maybe the Democrats haven't been clear enough about the rights of the poor disenfranchised villains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9o3vhKoF8
Maybe the Democrats haven't been clear enough about the rights of the poor disenfranchised villains.
Hey Doc ..... gotta love grandpa's .....
Aug 24, 2012 22:04:53 #
handgunner wrote:
I have no problem with the Castle Doctrine. Many S... (show quote)
I think you understand that in the heat of battle you act on instinct not the rules. The guy was not seriously trying to kill them. However, after they started to run away if he had stopped they may have regrouped and come back at him.
It is always easy for everyone to say what should have been done or what "I" would have done but until your in the middle of the noise and bullets buzzing by it just is not possible to drive from the back seat.
Aug 24, 2012 22:50:35 #
I can understand your way of thinking. They got what they deserved. As a Certified Handgun Instructor you may only use defensive agression until the deadly threat has diminished to a point of no imminent danger. My point is: they did not regroup for a second assault. The fire fight in the store was one thing... Following them outside and firing while they were trying to get the wounded suspect into the vehicle is another. When he went outside, he put himself in harms way again, inside he was not.
One way or the other, it's up to the Justice System to deside.
One way or the other, it's up to the Justice System to deside.
Aug 25, 2012 00:32:55 #
handgunner wrote:
I have no problem with the Castle Doctrine. Many S... (show quote)
They, the robbers, won't be trying that again. Maybe he did not chase them far enough like, out of town.
Aug 25, 2012 07:39:49 #
Every senior citizen has worked hard for everything they have today. And, if some lazy bastard tries to steal it from them, then I say aim for the head and send those little scum bags to hell where they belong.
Aug 25, 2012 07:40:54 #
handgunner wrote:
I can understand your way of thinking. They got wh... (show quote)
If he had stopped at the point where they started running you cannot say what the villians would have done. In the video he did not go outside the store. He chased them to the door and stopped. He was pointing his gun at them but I cannot tell if he fired or not.
My training is four years USMC, including combat in Viet Nam, with a 1911. My only problem with what the guy did was his one handed point and shoot technique. He did put other people at risk.
What he did to the bad guys was fine. They had no problem sticking their guns in the faces of innocent unarmed people. From what I'm hearing most would agree with Bangee5 and say he did not chase them far enough.
Good luck finding justice in the "justice" system.
Aug 25, 2012 09:59:06 #
Aug 25, 2012 10:23:53 #
I always figured that getting shot was an occupational hazard of being a thief.
Aug 25, 2012 10:48:44 #
handgunner wrote:
I have no problem with the Castle Doctrine. Many S... (show quote)
Even as he chased them it was self defense. They were STILL ARMED - They had threatened death and bodily harm to people still present - They were still capable of killing or seriously injuring anyone, including the armed senior citizen. Had they thrown their hands up and surrendered then the shooting could not go on. They were still a threat to anyone in the immediate vacinity, even while exiting the premises.
Aug 25, 2012 11:16:18 #
Wabbit
Loc: Arizona Desert
handgunner wrote:
I have no problem with the Castle Doctrine. Many S... (show quote)
Hey Doc ..... you have an issue because you do Not know and / or understand the law ..... and that of course is why there were no charges brought ..... I saw him on the news and he is being labeled a hero ..... he hit one perp twice and was arrested at the hospital .....
Aug 25, 2012 11:48:15 #
As far as I see grandpa wasn't about to give them a chance to think about making a return engagement. All I say is if you have a mind to commit a robbery make sure there ain't no old dudes around. Good on him.
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