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Jun 19, 2019 09:51:10   #
Abo
 
nikonbug wrote:
If you have older glass that is not up the the technology of the D850, you would do well if you got a better lens. That will let you optimize the superior qualities of the camera. Depending on the type of shots you take, you could get either a good prime or a zoom, say a 24-70 2.8. Good luck. We have all been where you are. Well, some of us with not as good a camera as you now have!


For gods sake, an AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D from 2002 is as sharp as a scalpel.
And that goes for lots and lots of other even older Nikon lenses.

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Jun 19, 2019 09:56:21   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
You are not a lousy photographer. Don't be so hard on yourself.
I wonder why you are so hard on yourself. The D200 was a great camera.
Who knows if a refurb is going to work fine.

I sold it to a friend and still use it sometime. I had the D300 D700 2 D800's
and they were all good. Someone here asked a good question you had
a cropped sensor DX and now a full frame 850. You probably need new
lens to fully enjoy.

You have one of the finest camera's in the world the 850. Go to a camera store
of a photo group. Or search online and get more info about your potential work.
You can't be a lousy photographer until you just shoot, shoot and shoot.

An article about how good the D200 is after 14 years.
https://petapixel.com/2019/01/02/this-is-what-a-14-year-old-nikon-dslr-can-do/

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Jun 19, 2019 09:59:39   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Flickwet wrote:
Every charity I’m aware of that has a re-sell outlet would be thrilled to receive it


I would be thrilled to receive it.

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Jun 19, 2019 11:04:24   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Retired CPO wrote:
I started out in digital with a D200 after years of film photography, both 35mm and medium format. I loved the D200 so much I bought another one as a backup. Great camera. I still have and use my D200. They are work horses. I have upgraded since and have D7100, D500, D5000 and D610. And the D200 with "only" 10.2 MP is still a fine camera. If you can't get good photographs with a D200 you might want to look at the photographer, not the camera.


When did you have the work done?

J. R.

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Jun 19, 2019 11:25:45   #
bobburk3 Loc: Maryland
 
Longshadow wrote:
I have my Ftb, AE-1, and Yashica MAT-124 in the curio cabinet!
Ah, the memories.


I loved my ftb. My wife had an AE-1 and I liked my old FTB so much better.

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Jun 19, 2019 12:14:46   #
jpgto Loc: North East Tennessee
 
Unfortuantely cameras become obsolete way too fast! IMO some of the changes, upgrades
put the newer camera back a notch or two on occasions! Have fun, enjoy

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Jun 19, 2019 12:20:24   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
You are talking about an "uncontrolled experiment"- let me explain.

You may have accidentally became a "lousy photographer" and not because you are a bad guy, not knowledgeable, or anything bad. If you were getting constantly poorly focused images you may have had a defective camera to begin with, you may have unknowingly experienced an eyesight issue, or may have not been using the autofocus functions on your camera properly. You may have misconstrued camera movement or subject movement blur as focus shortcomings? The only way you could have actually diagnosed the problem was to run controlled tests by manually focusing on a target and then comparing the results to an auto-focused image. Mounting the camera on a sturdy tripod and making certain that the shutter speed was appropriate for any action is another test. If you did not conduct any of these tests and just randomly or indiscriminately sent the camera out for refurbishing- this may have made matters worse and the actual issue was never addressed. If there was no improvement in performance after the repair, you should have taken it up with the repair service immediately.

Even if your old camera was in perfect working order, it is still an old camera and will have lost any significant trade-in or resale value. It is not a bad thing that technology progresses- consider it an advantage to be able to avail yourself of better up-to-date gear.

If you are still finding an alarming percentage of out of focus or blurred images with your new camera, make certain that the autofocus function is set for the appropriate mode for the type of work you are doing- check into the manual and the camera's menu for these settings. Brush up on your depth of field theory especially when working with longer focal lengths at wide apertures and shooting wildlife etc.

Your new camera, if used judiciously, should provide excellent sharpness. Some folks around this forum are so preoccupied with acutance that one might think they are exhibiting their images on the Jumbotron at the local arena or producing photo-murals and billboards. Many are never even making substantially large prints. Some folks are quick to categorize older gear as junk, paperweights and door stops, etc, while in fact, they were decent in their era and have just outlived their usefulness and have been replaced by better offerings from the engineers, manufacturers and the retailers.

Enjoy your new camera. If you have time, run a few controlled tests as I have outlined and make sure everything is OK while the warranty is still in force. If it all checks out, just watch your technique as to AF settings, DOP, and shutter speed. Make certain that the AF is set to hone in on your subject and lock the focus in before re-composing. If you are handholding your camera in difficult conditions, a good investment might be in a sturdy grip, L-bracket or monopod. These accessors help reinforce steadiness and in maintaining precise focus
You are talking about an "uncontrolled experi... (show quote)


E.L. You always say it like it is. Your helpful, never put anybody down and that is simply the best of this forum. I know your comments and suggestions have helped me in the past and I always appreciate it.

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Jun 19, 2019 12:30:14   #
bobburk3 Loc: Maryland
 
Sometimes it's the lens and you don't even know it. I had a D3100 and a Sigma 10-20mm which took beautiful, sharp images. Then I traded the D3100 in for a D7200 and did not realize the lens was out of focus on every shot until I downloaded them on my computer. I then tried to fine tune the lens with the AF Fine Tune feature in the D7200 and found that i could not bring it into focus. I sent the lens back to Sigma and they installed new firmware in the lens and now it is tack sharp. So soft images may not be the fault of the photographer but rather shortcomings of the combination of equipment.

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Jun 19, 2019 12:45:19   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
uaeluor1949 wrote:
I rarely wrote on the UHH as I thought I was a lousy photographer & wasn't proud of my work.

I purchased my first DSLR in March 2015 after not using film for 20 years. It's a Nikon D200 that had 187,700 clicks. I had been reading the UHH for some time along other sites. I had read that shutters last about 200,000 clicks. I didn't want the shutter to go bad on me and not knowing any better I took the D200 to Southern Photo Technical Services in Miami, Fl. & asked them to refurbish it. Over the years 95% my photos were out of focus & I got to keep almost 1% of my shots. after a couple of years of fretting my wife convinced me to get a better camera. I bought a D850. I couldn't believe my eyes, using the two lens I have I now come home with over 70% sharp photos with a keeper rate over 10%.

I do not believe that the D200 was refurbished. I don't know what to do about it. I know I can't get any money back & I can't sell the D200. Should I let Nikon know about this? Or is it just a waste of time & just forget about it.

This was taken this morning. Limpkin chick (cropped a lot).
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I still have my 200. It takes beautiful photos. Of course your 850 is going to give you a lot more detail, but the 200 I have is still a good working camera, and quite capable of good results.

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Jun 19, 2019 12:50:08   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
uaeluor1949 wrote:
I rarely wrote on the UHH as I thought I was a lousy photographer & wasn't proud of my work.

I purchased my first DSLR in March 2015 after not using film for 20 years. It's a Nikon D200 that had 187,700 clicks. I had been reading the UHH for some time along other sites. I had read that shutters last about 200,000 clicks. I didn't want the shutter to go bad on me and not knowing any better I took the D200 to Southern Photo Technical Services in Miami, Fl. & asked them to refurbish it. Over the years 95% my photos were out of focus & I got to keep almost 1% of my shots. after a couple of years of fretting my wife convinced me to get a better camera. I bought a D850. I couldn't believe my eyes, using the two lens I have I now come home with over 70% sharp photos with a keeper rate over 10%.

I do not believe that the D200 was refurbished. I don't know what to do about it. I know I can't get any money back & I can't sell the D200. Should I let Nikon know about this? Or is it just a waste of time & just forget about it.

This was taken this morning. Limpkin chick (cropped a lot).
I rarely wrote on the UHH as I thought I was a lou... (show quote)


Any idea why 30% of your D850 photos are not sharp? Did you ever test anything to see why your D200 photos were 95% not sharp? AF not good, bad body, AF points not set right, etc etc etc.

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Jun 19, 2019 13:16:04   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
John Battle wrote:
I'm just wondering. Are there charities that accept older cameras for some purpose?


I would love to have it, how much do you want for it?

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Jun 19, 2019 14:17:02   #
SDigger
 
Check with the local high school, community college or university. Sometimes there are students that need something to shoot. Using the 200 might cause one to become more mindful of determining proper exposure, depth of field, etc.

One other thought, I had a D-100 and used it for Infrared photos. It did not have the IR cutoff filter the newer DSLR bodies have. I don't know about the D-200 but you might enjoy playing with an R-72 filter, tripod and the camera.

It may be a dinosaur but it may have a place in equipment collection.

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Jun 19, 2019 20:17:58   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Sorry to say, if you are only getting 10% keeper rate with your D850 you are doing something wrong. One out of 10 is not good.

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Jun 19, 2019 20:22:52   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
hj wrote:
Sorry to say, if you are only getting 10% keeper rate with your D850 you are doing something wrong. One out of 10 is not good.


That just depends on what your standards are and how many chances you take. My keeper rate hasn't increased over my more than 40 years as a photographer, because my standards keep getting higher.

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Jun 19, 2019 23:16:03   #
roadchuck
 
I still have a D200 and found a guy on Ebay that does conversions to IR shooting (sorry I don't have the link).. It's a joy to have this camera for shooting infrared.. You might consider that option.. Enjoy the 850!!!!

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