Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA

I have been working with video (that looks like film types) and stills for years.
I see a lot of attitudes here that are don't want video in my camera. So if creative
agency shoots with a Red video camera and extracts 4k or 8k frames for a campaign
this is not photography. When a news photographer shoots an event "like the celebrity
perp" they use 10 20 shots a second to get a winner.

Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA

Well video is just a series of still shots shown at 24 or 30 frames per second. With 4K video you only get an 8MP single frame, so still not as good as most still pics. The camera shooting stills at 20 or 30 frames a second is still getting full resolution shots. I'd like to be around when 6K video cameras are affordable and will yield 32MP stills.

Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC

Tomcat5133 have you consider that frame rate is only one part of the image equation...
Illumination is a far more powerful tool in the mix...

Spray and pray has been around for years...
How many VOGUE covers have been shot at a high frame rate?
Just saying...

Guess it is totally a function of the client's needs...
For sports frame rate rules...

CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida

Personally I like having video capability in my Nikon. You never know when something will pop up in front of you. The individual frames aren't that good and the camera doesn't handle anywhere as good as a dedicated video camera does but you never know when a UFO will sweep past your window and you want video......................

sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

True, you never know when Vogue is going to ask you to do a cover photo

GreenReaper

Here is my $20 worth (two cents adjusted for inflation). I was a motion picture photographer when I was active duty Air Force, long before video. What I learned in MoPic was applicable to still photography. So much so that I made the transition seamlessly. I also spent a lot of time in video in my later year and have seen the evolution from 2" quad tape to being able to do the same thing with my Canon Rebel. However having said that, the lessons I learned early on concerning lighting, exposure, composition, framing, etc. were fully transferable to the still world. Just as an aside, the cameras I used were capable of shooting up to 500 fps and occasionally in special circumstances 5000 fps. Keep in mind this was 16mm film, not video. Those that get nitpicky about shooting video, lighten up, shoot whatever you want and enjoy the ride, its a blast.

Bill_de Loc: US

I think at least some of those who are against video in 'their' camera feel they are paying for something they don't want or won't use. If they could build cameras the way the used to build cars, this would be possible. Sit down and check off the features you want, give it to the salesman, and in 6 to 8 weeks you have the car, or camera "Your Way".

I want manual focus, auto exposure, not sure yet on ISO ...


I'm not sure if special orders are even still available at the 'Home of the Whopper'.


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Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA

Thanks for fun responses. I don't expect to get a Vogue cover sir. I doubt their is anyone in the hog that
have done the cover of Vogue. The good comment about 16mm film and video being a good training place to be to shoot images of any kind. The why do I have to pay for video well probably if they made your camera you would have to pay a fortune to remove this feature. The Nikon DF CMOS FX-Format sells for $2500minus the video (I believe) Been around a long time. A bargain? A lot of the improvement in sensors and technology was born from the video addition to modern cameras.
I wanted a monochrome B&W camera without breaking the bank. Found one it was $7000. That is what you get when a camera has speciality over full features today. I would measure a 4k Red selected frame against most dedicated still cameras. Thanks again for the interesting thoughts. Keep them coming.
PS- I have been trying to bring up topics that are thoughtful ideas to learn from you all.

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My 6K stills are 18 MP, which from a 20 MP
sensor is quite sufficient. Lumix G9 TWIMC.

As to the thread title, and therefor the main
point of this thread, it's rather vacuous. Yoga
might also be part of one's creative process.

But yoga is not photography, and neither is
video. IIRC there's a subforum here for video
using SLRs. To complain that stills forums are
populated by those who see SLR video as no
more than extra clutter of the user interface
is simply off topic.

But I do love my ultra high 6K burst mode,
and I assume that if the camera were not
video capable, then that mode would not be
part of the camera.

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Happens almost every day. I don't record
it cuz when they first arrived, they warned
me never to do that.

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Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA

You know sometimes I see a lack of imagination here. I know it was fun won't see a Vogue cover here.
Creative tools for the last few centuries all kinds of techniques have been used. Look at the Satchi
high priced art site. Thier are all different kinds of approaches. A Vogue cover would be shot in a upscale
studio mostly likely with a larger format camera. And a crew of 10 or more for makeup, stylists and staff.
This is not really about photography or video or painting or coloring and montage. This is about having a fully open mind about creating imagery. I was fortunate enough a number of years ago to go to the
"Valley of the King's" in Egypt. Not a camera or Memory Card anywhere. Just the most amazing designs
and art scribed on to the walls. To limit thoughts about photography to snaps doesnt make sense to me.