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I use both brands but neither of those exact versions.

Amongst my several models are special features that
I value: 6K burst, "one touch" exposure, perspective
correction, focus stacking, HDR, etc, etc. But acoarst
not all features are on every camera.

So, given two outfits of essentially equal basic ability,
maybe it's a specialty feature that will win your wallet
to one kit or the other ?

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In my flock, Olympus has the outstanding specialty
features, but Lumix has the outstanding operational
features. So the Lumix features aid me continuously
altho not adding special imaging abilities, while the
Olympus features are not of continuous use, but do
add special imaging abilities. IOW, Lumix features
are ergonomic conveniences, Olympus features are
actually enabling image making in special situations
[focus stacking, perspective adjusting] ... BUT ! but
becuz you prefer raw files, a few of the Olympus's
imaging features will be denied you :-(

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See, this is good information to hear. It's truly amazing how many of the negative reviews for cameras are based on how hard they are to configure and use. You would think that would send a message to the manufacturers to improve their game in this area.

BTW, I was also considering the Fuji APS-C X-T100 but I'm a little bit leery of the reputation fuji cameras have for bad autofocus. I have read a few articles tonight that make me think a lot of that is users not understanding how to get the most out of their Fuji cameras.

I have two driving vacations planned with my family of 6 adults for this year and a cruise with them next year. My wife and I are trying our best to get all of us together a few more times while we can. Our children will probably consider it torture.

My four children are currently ages 16 to 22. I am a prolific, family photo taker and for years I've used my DX DSLRs for that, D100, D90, D7000. I've never been satisfied with a cell phone and I really have to have a viewfinder to be happy. For these trips, space is going to be limited and that's a good excuse to get something a bit more modern and much smaller. Since I don't spend a lot on camera gear and have always bought used, my wife has given me her blessing if I keep the cost under control. I'm not one to charge anything or break the piggy bank, so I have set a firm budget of $650 total. That includes extra batteries, etc.

I have narrowed it down to the Panasonic GX85 kit with two lenses and the Olympus OM-10 Mk II kit which is currently offered with an additional telephoto lens. The cameras have nearly identical features although the Panasonic is newer. Both have good reviews. Both have in-body, 5-axis stabilization which might be a plus if I put any of my Nikon glass on them which I most certainly will try.

You may think I'm a bit crazy, but I shoot raw and I really don't want to deal with the size files that would come off of a 20 or 24 megapixel sensor. These match the resolution of my D7000 which I think is about perfect.

The Panasonic wins on video probably because it's newer. I don't take much video, but that might be because my D7000 is not an inspiring video camera. It also wins on warranty since the kit gives you 2 extra years. This might come in handy considering the complexity of the short lens which telescopes.

The Olympus has an edge in reviews, has a rangier short lens in the kit, and may win on ergonomics with me since it has a center-mounted viewfinder.

Here are the two links to B&H who will be collecting my money. I know many of you will be tempted to give me alternatives. Go ahead. That said, I'm really looking for any shortcomings any of you may have found through experience in either of these cameras.

Thanks in advance.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1444716-REG/panasonic_lumix_dmc_gx85_mirrorless_micro.html

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1238281-REG/olympus_v207051bu000_om_d_e_m10_mark_ii.html

Driving with 6 adults?? My advice would be to forget the camera and go with the flow - upgrade your cell phone to a iphone X or one of the newer competitors. Your kids are going to using them and I guarantee they will be taking better pictures than you will with a $650 camera. They will take them quicker and will have sent them to family and friends before you get your DSLR out of the bag and nobody (except us Hoggers) is going to want to see your pictures two weeks after the event. You will all get along better if they aren't constantly waiting for you to get set up. While you are at it, get a selfie stick.

Use the phone to shoot RAW and you can still have the joy of PPing the pictures when you get home.

Enjoy, don't kill anyone and post pics when you get back. Nowadays, it is much more impressive to boast that you shot those stunners with a cellphone than with your Nikon D$$$$.

https://naturalexposures.com/category/mirrorless/

Dan is a Lumix Luminary, a UHH member, runs a high end photo safari/tour leader, and has many magazine covers and articles to his name, plus books.

He uses Lumix now, instead of Nikon. There is a report on the G85 somewhere on his site.

I used Canons and Nikons for over 40 years. Now I have two Lumix GH4s and three Lumix lenses. The bodies and two pro grade zooms are weather resistant. I’ve used them at 20F to 104F, in snow, heavy rain, wind, and Florida humidity, for stills and video. No issues...

Lumix makes excellent gear. For what I do, I don’t find m4/3 to be any sort of hindrance.

I adapted my old Nikkor and Canon FD film lenses to the GH4. Operating them is a pain... manual focus, no automatic diaphragm, even the 24mm is too long, etc. Even worse, they don’t perform as well on Micro 4/3 as the newer Panasonic lenses.

I’d bet you trade your old gear for new glass... Maybe consider the G95 in the future as well.