DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Most of us probably didn't bother checking the link due to lack of real interest. We are growing somewhat immune and quite used to the lies and distractions of our leader.

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

Hello Steven, if you've been following the case at all, then you know that the voicemail was played in court and it was the order of the judge to provide a written transcript. Then that transcript was released to the public nearly a week ago - - the release of the actual voicemail to the public was just the recent incarnation of the information. The transcript:

Hey, Rob, uhm, this is John again. Uh, maybe, I-I-I’m-I’m sympathetic; I understand your situation, but let me see if I can’t … state it in … starker terms. If you have … and it wouldn’t surprise me if you’ve gone on to make a deal with, and, uh, work with the government, uh … I understand that you can’t join the joint defense; so that’s one thing. If, on the other hand, we have, there’s information that. .. implicates the President, then we’ve got a national security issue, or maybe a national security issue, I don’t know … some issue, we got to-we got to deal with, not only for the President, but for the country. So … uh … you know, then-then, you know, we need some kind of heads up. Um, just for the sake of … protecting all our interests, if we can, without you having to give up any … confidential information. So, uhm, and if it’s the former, then, you know, remember what we’ve always said about the President and his feelings toward Flynn and, that still remains, but-Well, in any event, uhm, let me know, and, uh, I appreciate your listening and taking the time. Thanks, Pal.

That voicemail text, along with many such other data, quoted in the Special Counsel's report, were part of the incidents & behaviors suggesting obstruction which, if you recall, were basically referred to Congress due to the DOJ policy of not indicting a sitting president.

Let me remind you that there are currently over 1,000 prosecutors & former prosecutors who have scoured the SC's report and have signed professional statements that the offenses cited would be indictable for obstruction.

As I am not a career prosecutor on the job, it isn't incumbent upon me to either identify or delineate for you the information you seek, for it is there for you to ferret out for yourself. It is up to me as a citizen v**er to gather as much information as possible in order to use what I feel is logical reasoning to come to my own conclusions, which are admittedly my opinion.

I don't view this voicemail or it's transcript as an isolated piece of evidence - - I take it within the entirety of the rest of the information, and that is substantial. I am glad to have heard the voicemail myself. As many of the legal people who have commented on Dowd's call, I can't fully understand why a lawyer would dare to make such a call, and I can hear for myself the tentative hesitation in his words, which imply to me that he knows he shouldn't have been saying what he said in that call. There is an implied fear of something negative, damaging, that Flynn could reveal about trump, and the blatant dangling of a friendly pardon can clearly be inferred.

You are welcome to your own opinion drawn from your own conclusions.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

"Call me if you hear something, and if you can legally tell me about it." (paraphrased)


Where is any obstruction?

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Do you mean besides between my ears??

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

What are the implications of this since the mueller investigation has closed?

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

Sure you mean HIS ears !!!

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Careful, you almost called me shirley.

We must maintain a sense of humor in these trying times!

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

The "implication" FROM the Special Counsel's report IS that any further investigation needs to be taken up by Congress.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

Well here is my conclusion:

You found a story in the news that sounded somewhat damaging to the President so you got excited and posted it without reading carefully any of the actual information in the story about what the lawyer said. You won't give me a real opinion about this evidence because you cannot figure out what he said that was so bad.

You don't need to be a prosecutor to decide whether somebody's phone message obstructed justice or not. You just need to understand English. For Christ sake, it wasn't even Trump's phone message. It was one of his lawyers. Why aren't you talking about obstruction of justice by this lawyer?

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Why? The special council made no indictments.

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

I should have written "I'm sure..." - - but not to worry - - I know I shirley wouldn't confuse you with that lady named Surely...

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

LOL, have fun dealing with those that are not up to speed on current events!

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

Well of course, you are mistaken about me, but you don't care about that so that's just what it is - - as always, everyone is entitled to his own opinion.

ps - - committee Representatives have been discussing Dowd and obstruction, are you kidding me ???

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

And that has been explained - - please try to keep up...

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

(...sigh...)