EyeSawYou

What does it matter what political leaning they have, they are still grandstanding.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

This is a well known logical fallacy called "appeal to authority." Essentially you say "this famous or learned person said X, thus X must be true. Wh**ever someone in authority says may or may not be true, but the real test is a "preponderance of the evidence.

Most of the news sources I've seen quote 700 former Federal Prosecutors, not the 1,000 that you assert. I looked hard but could not find an actual listing of these guys except when only 400 signed it, so I'm skeptical of the inflated number.

Even if it was 1,000 the number of current Federal Prosecutors is over 2,300. That means there is probably three or four times that number who are "former prosecutors." That means that the vast majority did not sign the letter. This reminds me of the time that "six retired Generals signed a public letter that criticized Donald Rumsfeld's handling of the Iraq War. It sounds pretty damning until you find out that there were 6,000 living retired Generals in the U.S. at the time. By the way, 32,000 scientists signed a letter saying that they didn't believe in G****l W*****g and you people on the Left dismissed it as hooey.

The only Federal Prosecutors who count in this case are Robert Mueller and the 19 other prosecutors who looked at this case full-time for two years, and not a one of them has said that Trump should have been charged with a single crime.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

This is so pathetic it is almost too silly to refute. The guy who had all the power in the World to make a case against Trump, doesn't recommend any charges at all, and then has the gall to ask Congress to make a case???

Angmo

Red meat for lefties. A token. Total nonsense.

Ken Star has detailed many charges on kkklinton. Trump? Zero. Wakey wakey.

alx Loc: NJ

His inaction was, I agree, inexcusable. It was based on a questionable DOJ "guideline" that a sitting president cannot be indicted. That doesn't alter the fact that we have a criminal sitting in the Oval Office. His long history before politics shows a career of plea bargains to dodge wide ranging felony charges.

Sadly, what we have is the product of settlements in lieu of proper prosecution of a career criminal because it is more cost effective to collect fines and penalties than pursue JUSTICE.

The time has come to LOCK HIM UP.

But the Republican Party, once the party of Law and Justice, is now the Party of the Teflon Don with the platform of "I am the Law Thy Trump and thou shall follow my every whim."

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

I think you might be a tad off here. When has Trump ever plea bargained to get out from a felony charge?



Since the other Liberals on this site have turned down an invitation to elucidate Trump's supposed criminal actions, I invite you to outline them. I would be open to a detailed discussion.

alx Loc: NJ

Research his and the Trump Organization's (and related companies) legal histories in NY, NJ, and any of the other states they operate in.

Take a look at the recent settlement in NY concerning the Trump Charities with the settlement being the dissolution of it and that his children, as members of the board are now disqualified from serving on any board of a non-profit organization for, if I recall correctly, the next 5 years. Plus the Tax Fraud charges associated with using the charity to defraud NYS, and the Feds.

Believe in your god all you want, but he has been a con man, fraud and c***t his whole life.

Why do you think he turned to Deutsche Bank and Russian financers when US Banks cut him and the TO off? Repeated fraud and defaulted loans.

Check into the Trump U settlement.

Look into his John Baron masquerade to get himself and the TO bumped up the Forbes list so that he could secure loans under false pretenses that he defaulted on.

The man of 10,000 lies (since taking office) has decades of practice.

And, just like John Gotti, the original Teflon Don, he is a master of using employees and lawyers to stay it's never really him. Do you really believe that makes him NOT a criminal? Get real.

LOCK HIM UP.

Angmo

Mueller stated three separate times with witnesses that DOJ guidelines were never a consideration or controlling factor.

Zero charges were recommended and none filed. Unlike Ken Star who had filed some 11 or 12 charges on kkklinton.

Mueller is desperate to never testify as he will be crucified by both sides.

alx Loc: NJ

As he probably should be. But, like he said, he can't exonerate the Trump.

Angmo

Again, he can’t exonerate anyone. Ain’t his job. He can Refer charges or walk. Mueller walked. I saw the door hit him in the way out.

Lefties sure are dumb. Stuck on stupid as they say.

Lefties lost the e******n. That was 2 years ago. Get over it.

alx Loc: NJ

"Under long standing Department Policy, a present president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited." Robert Mueller, 5/29/2019

You don't need to take any witness' word for it, if they serve in this administration that itself questions their veracity. You can listen to Mueller himself state that clearly in his press conference.

Angmo

Awe. How sweet. I guess kkklintons impeachment charges were illegal. It was federal crimes he committed. Saved by the leftie senate.

So if what you say - why the F was there an investigation. Hmmmmm?

Lefties. Got nothing. Happy to hear you feel the investigation was the wrong thing to do.

alx Loc: NJ

Your propensity for insults is well known.

I find it entertaining that you hide behind a picture of a hero, not your own identity, in the hope that some patriotism will rub off on how the audience perceives you. You hide behind a lie as you defend the man of 10,000 lies. I see why he is your hero.

Angmo

Show me this mythical job description of chief exonerator. Does he work for the defense or prosecutor. Is there a third party I am unaware of? Please provide his name as well. I’ve taken plenty of classes on law. Must have missed that day.

I see you have letters alx in front of a hemorrhoid. I’ll assume that’s you based on your comment.

Prep H is in your future. Stick it well.

EyeSawYou

LOL what a load of crock you just posted here, here is just one of them.

'Donald Trump has had no trouble getting big loans at competitive rates'

"The idea that banks won’t lend to Trump because of his bankruptcy history is the equivalent of f**e news: MarketWatch analysis"

Contrary to countless reports portraying President Donald Trump’s relationship with banks as toxic, a new MarketWatch analysis shows Trump has virtually no trouble getting loans on good terms these days. Big banks like Barclays BCS, +0.13% also welcome Trump’s money in brokerage accounts and one of the biggest, J.P. Morgan Chase JPM, -1.10% , oversees his family trusts, according to a recent p**********l disclosure.

Trump signed his first financial-disclosure form as president on F**g Day, June 14 — also Trump’s birthday. The 98-page document shows assets of at least $1.4 billion and income of almost $600 million for the 2016 calendar year and into the early stages of 2017. Trump reported that he owes at least $310 million to banks and financial-services firms, including at least $130 million to Deutsche Bank.

The ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee, Democrat Maxine Waters of California, is leading a group of four House members that’s pressed Deutsche Bank to disclose the results of an internal review of its business relationship with Trump and his family. The Waters-led group wants to determine whether loans made to Trump and members of his family were backed by guarantees from the Russian government or were in any way connected to Russia. Deutsche Bank DB, +0.15% has so far declined to cooperate with congressional inquiries into its Trump-linked business.

The MarketWatch analysis shows a variety of lenders, all big banks or listed specialized finance companies like Ladder Capital, that have provided lots of money to Trump over the years in the forms of short-, medium- and long-term loans and at competitive rates, whether fixed or variable.

“The Treasury yield that matches the term of the loan is the closest starting benchmark for Trump-sized commercial real estate loans,” said Robert Thesman, a certified public accountant in Washington state who specializes in real estate tax issues. The 10-year Treasury swap rate is also used and tracks the bonds closely, according to one expert.

Trump’s outstanding loans were granted at rates between 2 points over and under the matching Treasury-yield benchmark at inception. That’s despite the well-documented record of bankruptcy filings that dot Trump’s history of casino investment.

The Deutsche Bank credits all carry 10-year terms with variable rates — LIBOR or prime, per the disclosures—that also still track close to 2 points more than the Treasury yield. On the same day Trump signed the recent disclosure, the Federal Open Market Committee announced it would increase the benchmark federal funds rate by 25 basis points, bringing it to a target range of 1% to 1.25%.

A note from J.P. Morgan indicated the Fed rate hike “should signal to investors that the U.S. economy is in a strong place. “[A]nd when the broader economy is doing well—with expanding businesses, higher wages and extra discretionary income—commercial real estate investors do well.”

That’s good news for Trump, who said he had signed his business over to his two sons to manage in a revocable trust but who still personally enjoys the benefit of his investments’ success, as his financial disclosures document — and his tax returns, if disclosed — would show.

Trump’s properties are still vulnerable on the Deutsche variable-rate loans if no interest caps were included in the loan terms. Trump may have already bought swap contracts from another bank that would exchange his variable-rate interest payment commitment for a fixed-rate one for a price.

A spokesman for Deutsche Bank declined to comment on its business relationship with Trump, citing client confidentiality requirements.

Without knowing all the deal terms, “it’s hard to know if Trump has been getting market rates, sweetheart deals or punitive terms given his history of bankruptcies,” said Thesman.

Ladder Capital LADR, +0.06% — a listed real estate investment trust, or REIT, that lends for commercial mortgages, mezzanine financing and preferred and direct equity to partners — originated two mortgages and one loan with a high value of $125 million, per the disclosure, for Trump-related properties. Ladder Capital also recently refinanced another mortgage originated by UBS Real Estate Investments Inc. in 2006 with a high value of $25 million, per the disclosure. Ladder’s CEO is Brian Harris, a former UBS commercial real estate executive, and his firm is filled with real estate veterans from big banking organizations including UBS, Bank of America and Credit Suisse.

A spokesman for Ladder Capital declined to comment on its business relationship with Trump, citing client confidentiality requirements.

Ladder Capital no longer holds the loans, according to a person familiar with the t***sactions. That person also said all of the credits are nonrecourse — meaning the lender or investors in the collateralized mortgage debt securities, or CMBS, can pursue the collateral, in this case the properties, but not the borrower in case of default — and have been securitized. The CMBS that includes the Trump Tower note was rated triple-A.

Said Thesman: “It’s the collateral, and the underlying economics of the deals, not the character of the borrower, that ultimately drives the deala terms.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-has-had-no-trouble-getting-big-loans-at-competitive-rates-2017-06-22