Simple cameras
Jun 13, 2019 09:37:08 #
BebuLamar wrote:
The reason is really because the Df is a digital c... (show quote)
And, do you have the grip for it, Bebu … I suppose you must … tell me, does that grip fit any of the other Nikon bodies, too?
Jun 13, 2019 10:16:14 #
Chris T wrote:
And, do you have the grip for it, Bebu … I suppose you must … tell me, does that grip fit any of the other Nikon bodies, too?
There is no vertical grip (AKA battery grip) available for the Df. There is a small built in grip for the right hand. Similar to the F3 but bigger. You can see that the F and F2 need no such grip because the camera can be hold securely with the left hand. The right hand really doesn't support the camera for these models.
Jun 13, 2019 10:48:52 #
BebuLamar wrote:
There is no vertical grip (AKA battery grip) available for the Df. There is a small built in grip for the right hand. Similar to the F3 but bigger. You can see that the F and F2 need no such grip because the camera can be hold securely with the left hand. The right hand really doesn't support the camera for these models.
I honestly don't remember, Bebu … I had both the FTN AND the F2 … long gone, now, though - gotta be nigh on 50 years ago … Gawd! … How time flies, huh? … Didn't realize there was NO battery grip made for the Df … that really wakes one up - huh? … I guess I won't be buying a Df, then - anytime, soon, anyway!
Jun 13, 2019 11:05:45 #
Chris T wrote:
I honestly don't remember, Bebu … I had both the FTN AND the F2 … long gone, now, though - gotta be nigh on 50 years ago … Gawd! … How time flies, huh? … Didn't realize there was NO battery grip made for the Df … that really wakes one up - huh? … I guess I won't be buying a Df, then - anytime, soon, anyway!
I wouldn't want the battery grip for the Df any way. It would make the Df looks wrong. Besides they put the memory card in the same compartment as the battery so you would have to remove the grip to replace the card. Besides I never run out of battery while shooting any way. In fact the only reason I would want a battery grip for any camera is to make the frame rate goes higher. Many cameras the frame rate doesn't go up with the grip though.
Jun 13, 2019 11:11:19 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I wouldn't want the battery grip for the Df any way. It would make the Df looks wrong. Besides they put the memory card in the same compartment as the battery so you would have to remove the grip to replace the card. Besides I never run out of battery while shooting any way. In fact the only reason I would want a battery grip for any camera is to make the frame rate goes higher. Many cameras the frame rate doesn't go up with the grip though.
Are you SURE about that, Bebu? … With a single battery grip - most seem to go up by 2 fps … not sure how much higher that'd go with a dual-battery grip … have one of those - bought it NEW for my D90 before I'd decided to return it when my 30 days was up … so, I never had a chance to test it to see if it ran faster …
Jun 13, 2019 11:17:34 #
Chris T wrote:
Are you SURE about that, Bebu? … With a single battery grip - most seem to go up by 2 fps … not sure how much higher that'd go with a dual-battery grip … have one of those - bought it NEW for my D90 before I'd decided to return it when my 30 days was up … so, I never had a chance to test it to see if it ran faster …
Yes one example is the Nikon D850. The frame rate doesn't go up when you add the grip. It would last longer only.
Jun 13, 2019 11:38:36 #
Chris T wrote:
Not sure how you can be certain about that, Salo …... (show quote)
Well, Chris, I cannot be absolutely certain about the size of your Nikkormat EL from the picture, but I believe I've estimated correctly because I am certain of the size of the Nikkor 50mm f/2.0 attached to it. I have the same lens attached to my FT2 and FE. Anyway, I am looking forward to your upload of the three Nikons side by side.
Jun 13, 2019 12:59:13 #
. IBIS helps but it's still much easier to shoot video with an extremely light P&S or even a cellphone.
I must disagree with you. For several years in the seventies, I shot newsfilm for a local station. We shot 16mm film in a B&H spring wound camera. I promise you it was heavier than all your cameras and phones put together. We shot it handheld, and got decent results. We all knew that there was a sweet spot where the camera was too heavy to bounce around like a falling feather but light enough for most to handle.
Weight and gravity are your friends.
I must disagree with you. For several years in the seventies, I shot newsfilm for a local station. We shot 16mm film in a B&H spring wound camera. I promise you it was heavier than all your cameras and phones put together. We shot it handheld, and got decent results. We all knew that there was a sweet spot where the camera was too heavy to bounce around like a falling feather but light enough for most to handle.
Weight and gravity are your friends.
Jun 13, 2019 12:59:44 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes one example is the Nikon D850. The frame rate doesn't go up when you add the grip. It would last longer only.
Oh, I see … thought they ALL went up a couple fps - when you added a battery grip … live & learn - eh?
Jun 13, 2019 13:02:44 #
Salo wrote:
Well, Chris, I cannot be absolutely certain about the size of your Nikkormat EL from the picture, but I believe I've estimated correctly because I am certain of the size of the Nikkor 50mm f/2.0 attached to it. I have the same lens attached to my FT2 and FE. Anyway, I am looking forward to your upload of the three Nikons side by side.
Salo … I put both the FG (same size as FM) and the D7100 on top of the base of the EL - good 1" difference!
The pics are all shot, but I don't have a reducer anymore since I reset the PC - so I have to figure out how to do it with Elements … and I can't seem to be able to get the damned things OFF the camera, right now!
Jun 13, 2019 13:05:56 #
Bill P wrote:
. IBIS helps but it's still much easier to shoot v... (show quote)
You know - I think there's something TO that theory, Bill … my D7000 is a smidge heavier than my D7100 - and I prefer it when shooting macros, as it doesn't seem to move, quite so much …
Jun 13, 2019 13:16:12 #
Chris T wrote:
You know - I think there's something TO that theory, Bill … my D7000 is a smidge heavier than my D7100 - and I prefer it when shooting macros, as it doesn't seem to move, quite so much …
We all believed it and I still do. Tensed muscles are more steady that relaxed ones.
Jun 13, 2019 13:23:39 #
Bill P wrote:
We all believed it and I still do. Tensed muscles are more steady that relaxed ones.
Oh, I see, Bill … so the heavier the camera, the more you tense up to hold it steady … so - better, I guess ...
Jun 13, 2019 16:31:25 #
Salo wrote:
Well, Chris, I cannot be absolutely certain about the size of your Nikkormat EL from the picture, but I believe I've estimated correctly because I am certain of the size of the Nikkor 50mm f/2.0 attached to it. I have the same lens attached to my FT2 and FE. Anyway, I am looking forward to your upload of the three Nikons side by side.
Here they are, Salo - finally decided to edit on the other PC, and then save on a Flashcard, and swap it.
Nikkormat EL on the left (as you can tell) FG w/ MD on right … D7100 in middle …
Nikkormat EL w/ 50 f2, D7100 w/ 16-85, Nikon FG w/ MD
Jun 13, 2019 18:05:39 #
Chris T wrote:
Oh, I see, Bill … so the heavier the camera, the more you tense up to hold it steady … so - better, I guess ...
I shouldn't have used the word tense, as it might be misinterpreted. If the muscles have to work a bit to hold up the body then it will be more steady. If the camera is too light, it will flop around.
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