Simple cameras
Jun 4, 2019 23:12:40 #
carl hervol
Loc: jacksonville florida
Its more cost afferent for the manufacture to make 1 camera than 2 or 3 just don't use it !!! 
Jun 5, 2019 00:14:11 #
Chris T wrote:
Oh, right ... and that must be ALL of 5MP - right?
You say that like EVERYONE has one, N ....
That assumes quite a bit ...
You say that like EVERYONE has one, N ....
That assumes quite a bit ...
iPhones are 12MP now. Best selling and most wanted phones among American teens.
Jun 5, 2019 00:57:48 #
HRBIEL wrote:
Just some food for thought. In the old days (pre d... (show quote)
Nikon has a fine example of one and its a very good seller (and no, its not cheap)!
Jun 5, 2019 02:29:57 #
speters wrote:
Nikon has a fine example of one and its a very good seller (and no, its not cheap)!
Look up, S ... I guess you missed my earlier post ...
Jun 5, 2019 02:33:16 #
burkphoto wrote:
iPhones are 12MP now. Best selling and most wanted phones among American teens.
And meanwhile - even the lowest of the low APS-C Canons and DX Nikons are 24MP ...
Whilst FF / FX* DSLRs START at 24MP and go up to 32MP, 36MP, 46MP and 50MP ...
Just shows ya, huh? ... American teens just are not that discerning - are they, Bill?
* with one notable exception - the 16MP Nikon Df ... but, then -
Prices on Nikon Df - NO VIDEO
$2,996.95 - B&H - w/ 50mm f1.8 (silver)
$2,746.95 - B&H - body only (silver)
$2,735.00 - Amazon - body only (black)
$1,749.95 - Adorama - w/50 f1.8 (silver - SE) refurb by Nikon USA
$1,599.95 - Adorama - body only (silver) refurb by Nikon USA
$1,079.00 - Adorama - body only (silver) Used
Jun 5, 2019 08:51:21 #
Chris T wrote:
And meanwhile - even the lowest of the low APS-C C... (show quote)
When you compare the price of the new Df of $2746.95 with the price of the new D850 of $2796.95 and the Z7 of $2796.95 with the FTZ adapter it makes a lot of sense to buy the Df.
Jun 5, 2019 09:10:41 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
Chris T wrote:
And meanwhile - even the lowest of the low APS-C C... (show quote)
The DF is a good camera, of course, but most of what one is paying for is the retro design. If that strongly appeals to someone then it's a great camera for them. But, for everyone else, it's overpriced and under spec'd and it's performance is not as good as similarly priced current cameras.
Jun 5, 2019 10:06:33 #
Chris T wrote:
And meanwhile - even the lowest of the low APS-C C... (show quote)
You wouldn’t catch me arguing that a phone is capable of better technical image quality than a MILC or dSLR.
That said, I’m not a participant in the megapixel wars. I have what I need for my needs, and will rent when I need more, just as I rent vans or pickups on rare occasion that I need one.
To say that favoring an iPhone is “not discerning” is just being unaware of the entire Apple ecosystem. These kids know what they have, and can do amazing things with them.
Every tool has a purpose. A smartphone has millions of them (apps).
Jun 5, 2019 10:25:50 #
Chris T wrote:
And meanwhile - even the lowest of the low APS-C C... (show quote)
And yet I get excellent quality 8x10 prints from my 12mpx iPhone SE. That's as large as I ever print my images. It's a matter of price vs. quality and the concept of "good enough."
Jun 5, 2019 11:56:56 #
aellman wrote:
And yet I get excellent quality 8x10 prints from my 12mpx iPhone SE. That's as large as I ever print my images. It's a matter of price vs. quality and the concept of "good enough."
Sometimes great is the enemy of good. I carry my iPhone everywhere. My serious camera comes out for work or other “intentional photography.”
Jun 5, 2019 12:02:22 #
BebuLamar wrote:
When you compare the price of the new Df of $2746.95 with the price of the new D850 of $2796.95 and the Z7 of $2796.95 with the FTZ adapter it makes a lot of sense to buy the Df.
ONLY if you simply CAN'T STAND - having the video capability of the others, Bebu ...
Jun 5, 2019 12:04:06 #
mwsilvers wrote:
The DF is a good camera, of course, but most of what one is paying for is the retro design. If that strongly appeals to someone then it's a great camera for them. But, for everyone else, it's overpriced and under spec'd and it's performance is not as good as similarly priced current cameras.
No, it isn't ... but, you makes your choice, and you pays your money, and Good Luck with it - eh, Mark?
Jun 5, 2019 12:05:24 #
Chris T wrote:
ONLY if you simply CAN'T STAND - having the video capability of the others, Bebu ...
I prefer not having the video but the most important reasons I got the Df because it has the shutter speed dial, the ISO dial. There are a good number of cameras today have those but none is a DSLR.
Before I have the Df I used the F5 for a while but I found that I hated the 2 wheels for control so I bought the F3. The Df has similar control to that of the F3.
Jun 5, 2019 12:09:00 #
burkphoto wrote:
You wouldn’t catch me arguing that a phone is capa... (show quote)
Oooooh, Bill ... how you twist things!!! ... First off - I am hardly unaware of the entire Apple ecosystem.
Secondly, when I used the 'undiscerning' remark in relation to the nation's youth - it was directly related to the idea the Nation's Youth couldn't care less about the "big" cameras, NOR how much res they produce!
Jun 5, 2019 12:12:23 #
aellman wrote:
And yet I get excellent quality 8x10 prints from my 12mpx iPhone SE. That's as large as I ever print my images. It's a matter of price vs. quality and the concept of "good enough."
Yes, that's what I always say to myself, Alan - "good enough" and then I come on here and display what I think/believe - is "good enough" and then get lambasted ... no wonder I shy away from putting anymore up!
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