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May 31, 2019 20:06:12   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Steven Seward wrote:
And you take this seriously, right? Why can't Liberals just dwell on the real faults of Trump instead of making stuff up, or taking jokes literally, or taking quotes out of context?


Because when the POS clown in the White House exceeds expected norms on a daily basis and lies on almost an hourly basis, who is to know what is a joke or when he is telling the t***h.
What is interesting is the five steps of conservative denial. First deny he said it, second deny he said it, third see the visual proof, fourth try to minimize as a joke and fifth, call names.
When does supporting this ridiculous clown become more work than result. Dems do not have this problem. We know that he will be history in 2020 and if t***h was told, so do you.

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May 31, 2019 20:23:20   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trump’s “love” executed diplomats that failed to make his February’s summit a success. What a fine person to admire.

Kim launched missiles recently that Bolton stated was a violation of agreements but Trump disagrees.

Thus we see the “stable genius” at work. Shall we discuss the trade wars with China and now Mexico?

How can people support this deranged man? This child king is trying to make America something none of us has ever seen in our lifetime.

I always thought the Pied Piper was a childhood fable but apparently not; today, like then, the vermin joyfully follow his tune.
Trump’s “love” executed diplomats that failed to m... (show quote)


Haven’t you been wrong for the last two years and counting, while Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh, me and he rest of the tin foil hat deplorables have been right?
I like the fact he is dredging the swamp causing your ilk to speak and think the way you do.
I guess you want the United States of America to attack NK now.
We know you are fine gathering v**es through i*****l i*********n.
Hey let’s talk about the investigation of the investigation comrade.

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May 31, 2019 20:33:57   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
yhtomit wrote:
Haven’t you been wrong for the last two years and counting, while Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh, me and he rest of the tin foil hat deplorables have been right?
I like the fact he is dredging the swamp causing your ilk to speak and think the way you do.
I guess you want the United States of America to attack NK now.
We know you are fine gathering v**es through i*****l i*********n.
Hey let’s talk about the investigation of the investigation comrade.


Just throwing stuff up to see what sticks. I do not respond to children and you have obviously not grown up. Sometimes it is fun to pick on the silly trump fanboys but sometimes it is just boring. You are boring.
2020 will finish trump and you will need to take the hood off of another stormtrooper to pretend to be an American.

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May 31, 2019 20:50:11   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
What is interesting is the five steps of conservative denial. First deny he said it, second deny he said it, third see the visual proof, fourth try to minimize as a joke and fifth, call names.

So when did I ever deny he said it, or call anybody names? And I didn't try to "minimize" it as a joke, it was a joke.

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May 31, 2019 20:54:04   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Just throwing stuff up to see what sticks. I do not respond to children and you have obviously not grown up. Sometimes it is fun to pick on the silly trump fanboys but sometimes it is just boring. You are boring.
2020 will finish trump and you will need to take the hood off of another stormtrooper to pretend to be an American.

For a guy who doesn't respond to and is bored by yhtommit, you sure respond a lot.

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May 31, 2019 21:15:23   #
EyeSawYou
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trump’s “love” executed diplomats that failed to make his February’s summit a success. What a fine person to admire.

Kim launched missiles recently that Bolton stated was a violation of agreements but Trump disagrees.

Thus we see the “stable genius” at work. Shall we discuss the trade wars with China and now Mexico?

How can people support this deranged man? This child king is trying to make America something none of us has ever seen in our lifetime.

I always thought the Pied Piper was a childhood fable but apparently not; today, like then, the vermin joyfully follow his tune.
Trump’s “love” executed diplomats that failed to m... (show quote)



'Obama's True Legacy: Propping Up Dictators'

By praising Ethiopia’s repressive regime for being “democratically elected” last week, President Obama was driving home once again something that should be abundantly clear by now: His administration marks a radical departure from previous ones when it comes to democracy promotion.

U.S. President Barack Obama converses with Ethiopian Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn while walking to board Air Force One for his departure from Ethiopia late last month.

On the contrary, the Obama legacy will be one of propping up dictatorial regimes around the world. His praise for the government of Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn merely took to Africa what Obama and his foreign policy team have already done on a grander scale in Iran, Cuba and Burma.

To be sure, President Obama was standing next to Desalegn at a joint press conference in Addis Ababa when he spoke. Maybe he didn’t want to be a bad guest. And the President did add that the Ethipiopian government has “more work to do.” After a slew of criticism at home, he later also questioned why African leaders clung on to office rather than leave after their terms were completed.

But Mr. Obama didn’t have to go out of his way to call Desalegn “democratically elected,” let alone do it twice. Nor did he have to make excuses for his government’s horrendous human rights record by recalling the country’s past hardship and the relative infancy of its constitution.

Before leaving for Africa, human rights activists and think tanks had called on Mr. Obama to use his trip to promote economic and political freedom—something the president did only in the mildest of ways.


The Ethiopian government, for the record, has been roundly criticized by all major human rights organizations for holding sham e******ns in May in which Desalegn’s Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) claimed to have won 100 percent of the v**e. Immediately upon Mr. Obama’s comments, the President of Freedom House Mark P. Lagon released this reaction:

President Obama unfortunately was fundamentally wrong in his comments about the parliamentary e******ns Ethiopia held in May, in which the ruling Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) won every seat. Calling Ethiopia’s government democratically elected lowers the standards for democracy and undermines the courageous work of so many Ethiopians who fight to realize a just and democratic society.

And that’s just it. President Obama seems to have very little time for dissidents who fight brutal regimes in troubled lands. The reasons for that are many. My Heritage Foundation colleague Joshua Meservey, an Africa expert, brings up two when he tells me:

President Obama seems uncomfortable with democracy promotion for two reasons. First, he wants to distance himself from President George W. Bush’s agenda, a significant plank of which was democracy promotion. Second, I think he is a product of a certain liberal worldview that believes the U.S.’s and West’s past sins, such as s***ery and the Crusades, disqualify them from pushing their values abroad, as doing so implies that the U.S.-led West’s model is superior.

Meservey is right, except what liberals don’t seem to get is that they are turning on its head one of the huge achievements of classical liberalism: the Enlightenment promotion of the idea that some rights are natural, and thus universal.

The 18th century Enlightenment was all about the universal applicability of such natural rights as life, liberty and the pursuit of property. Except that to modern liberals, the Enlightenment was all about dead white men, so promoting their ideas is culturally insensitive. Ironically, they resemble in this sense the conservatives of the 18th century, who shared Edmund Burke’s belief in each nation’s particularism.

Only up to a point, of course. Liberals still want to push their pet causes on others. Unfortunately these don’t include democracy or traditional human rights.

David Kramer, Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy and Human Rights under President Bush, sees the hand of National Security Adviser Susan Rice in the Ethiopia faux pas, saying Rice has “had a long-standing interest in Ethiopia and… was a huge fan of the late President Meles Zenawi, who was no democrat, to say the least.” Ms. Rice’s sympathy for African despots is well known.

For the most part, though, Kramer’s analysis is the same as Meservey’s: Obama’s problems with democracy are larger.

“For the first year I put it down to ABB, Anything But Bush—Bush did it, so it was bad,” Kramer told me. “But seven years on that doesn’t explain it anymore. He’s the president who’s shown the least interest in democracy and human rights since Richard Nixon. It’s sad. For someone who constantly extols his past as a community organizer, this is pretty unexplainable.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikegonzalez3/2015/08/05/obamas-true-legacy-propping-up-dictators/#1d091cb76aed

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May 31, 2019 21:18:43   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
'Obama's True Legacy: Propping Up Dictators'

By praising Ethiopia’s repressive regime for being “democratically elected” last week, President Obama was driving home once again something that should be abundantly clear by now: His administration marks a radical departure from previous ones when it comes to democracy promotion.

U.S. President Barack Obama converses with Ethiopian Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn while walking to board Air Force One for his departure from Ethiopia late last month.

On the contrary, the Obama legacy will be one of propping up dictatorial regimes around the world. His praise for the government of Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn merely took to Africa what Obama and his foreign policy team have already done on a grander scale in Iran, Cuba and Burma.

To be sure, President Obama was standing next to Desalegn at a joint press conference in Addis Ababa when he spoke. Maybe he didn’t want to be a bad guest. And the President did add that the Ethipiopian government has “more work to do.” After a slew of criticism at home, he later also questioned why African leaders clung on to office rather than leave after their terms were completed.

But Mr. Obama didn’t have to go out of his way to call Desalegn “democratically elected,” let alone do it twice. Nor did he have to make excuses for his government’s horrendous human rights record by recalling the country’s past hardship and the relative infancy of its constitution.

Before leaving for Africa, human rights activists and think tanks had called on Mr. Obama to use his trip to promote economic and political freedom—something the president did only in the mildest of ways.


The Ethiopian government, for the record, has been roundly criticized by all major human rights organizations for holding sham e******ns in May in which Desalegn’s Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) claimed to have won 100 percent of the v**e. Immediately upon Mr. Obama’s comments, the President of Freedom House Mark P. Lagon released this reaction:

President Obama unfortunately was fundamentally wrong in his comments about the parliamentary e******ns Ethiopia held in May, in which the ruling Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) won every seat. Calling Ethiopia’s government democratically elected lowers the standards for democracy and undermines the courageous work of so many Ethiopians who fight to realize a just and democratic society.

And that’s just it. President Obama seems to have very little time for dissidents who fight brutal regimes in troubled lands. The reasons for that are many. My Heritage Foundation colleague Joshua Meservey, an Africa expert, brings up two when he tells me:

President Obama seems uncomfortable with democracy promotion for two reasons. First, he wants to distance himself from President George W. Bush’s agenda, a significant plank of which was democracy promotion. Second, I think he is a product of a certain liberal worldview that believes the U.S.’s and West’s past sins, such as s***ery and the Crusades, disqualify them from pushing their values abroad, as doing so implies that the U.S.-led West’s model is superior.

Meservey is right, except what liberals don’t seem to get is that they are turning on its head one of the huge achievements of classical liberalism: the Enlightenment promotion of the idea that some rights are natural, and thus universal.

The 18th century Enlightenment was all about the universal applicability of such natural rights as life, liberty and the pursuit of property. Except that to modern liberals, the Enlightenment was all about dead white men, so promoting their ideas is culturally insensitive. Ironically, they resemble in this sense the conservatives of the 18th century, who shared Edmund Burke’s belief in each nation’s particularism.

Only up to a point, of course. Liberals still want to push their pet causes on others. Unfortunately these don’t include democracy or traditional human rights.

David Kramer, Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy and Human Rights under President Bush, sees the hand of National Security Adviser Susan Rice in the Ethiopia faux pas, saying Rice has “had a long-standing interest in Ethiopia and… was a huge fan of the late President Meles Zenawi, who was no democrat, to say the least.” Ms. Rice’s sympathy for African despots is well known.

For the most part, though, Kramer’s analysis is the same as Meservey’s: Obama’s problems with democracy are larger.

“For the first year I put it down to ABB, Anything But Bush—Bush did it, so it was bad,” Kramer told me. “But seven years on that doesn’t explain it anymore. He’s the president who’s shown the least interest in democracy and human rights since Richard Nixon. It’s sad. For someone who constantly extols his past as a community organizer, this is pretty unexplainable.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikegonzalez3/2015/08/05/obamas-true-legacy-propping-up-dictators/#1d091cb76aed
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So predictable.



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May 31, 2019 21:47:31   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Steven Seward wrote:
And you take this seriously, right? Why can't Liberals just dwell on the real faults of Trump instead of making stuff up, or taking jokes literally, or taking quotes out of context?


I don't think it's much of a joke that Trump is in love with a murdering tyrant.

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May 31, 2019 22:11:02   #
EyeSawYou
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So predictable.


Yes you are predictable, you just h**e for your hypocrisy to be exposed so you come up with that stupid meme time after time. It's not about who dunnit also, it's about Liberal hypocrisy "Look at the speck in their eyes but don't look at the plank in our hypocritical eyes. <<< Liberal mantra to deflect. You really aren't to bright are ya?

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May 31, 2019 22:50:17   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I don't think it's much of a joke that Trump is in love with a murdering tyrant.

Give me a break. Don't insult me with nonsense.

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May 31, 2019 22:53:15   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So predictable.

Of course it was predictable! When you choose to impugn Trump for the same things for which you will not condemn Obama, of course somebody is going to point out your hypocrisy. Duh!

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May 31, 2019 23:25:12   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Of course it was predictable! When you choose to impugn Trump for the same things for which you will not condemn Obama, of course somebody is going to point out your hypocrisy. Duh!


So you admit that trump is a POS. I do not condemn Obama because I could care less about Obama. He is not president, he will never be president. He is your fixation not mine. My fixation is to help end the term of trump. He is currently serving his first and only term. We both know it, you just do not have the freedom to admit it.

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May 31, 2019 23:27:17   #
EyeSawYou
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So you admit that trump is a POS. I do not condemn Obama because I could care less about Obama. He is not president, he will never be president. He is your fixation not mine. My fixation is to help end the term of trump. He is currently serving his first and only term. We both know it, you just do not have the freedom to admit it.


LOL nice deflection from your hypocrisy haven been exposed, you seriously have some mental issues to deal with.

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May 31, 2019 23:47:38   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
LOL nice deflection from your hypocrisy haven been exposed, you seriously have some mental issues to deal with.


Now you are a mental health expert instead of a sad old man. LOL

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May 31, 2019 23:58:31   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So predictable.


There you go again showing your duplicity....

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