Question Re: Canon Pixma Pro-10 printer results (Page 2): Interesting! I have always let the software control the printing using the paper profiles from Canon. I might try it their way!

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

cfhelz45 wrote:

I have a Pro-10 and recently called tech support and here is how we corrected the problem. Make sure the printer controls the output with the following settings:

Color Mode ICC Profile
Printer Profile Auto
Rendering Intent Perpetual
Color Matching Method OS Standard CMM

Hope this helps!!

Interesting! I have always let the software control the printing using the paper profiles from Canon. I might try it their way!

Treborteko1 Loc: New Jersey

I second that...:)

LeeK Loc: Washington State

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I actually leave the printer on even though I don't use it much. In a workshop, they mentioned this would be best. Actually would use less ink rather than the printer cleaning each time it's turned on. I use Canon's Studio Pro that I originally downloaded when I got the printer. Also try to use the ICC Profile that goes with the paper. Had that wrong once and it definitely made a difference. I'm going to read through all your comments, see if there is anything I have missed and likely call Canon for help. Do appreciate all of your help.

Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire

GrandmaG wrote:

Interesting! I have always let the software control the printing using the paper profiles from Canon. I might try it their way!

Setting Printer Profile Auto means that the printer driver will automatically select the appropriate Canon ICC profile for the media(paper) type selected. You only want to use this setting if you are using Canon paper. It is the same as actually selecting the ICC profile.

LeeK Loc: Washington State

Jrhoffman75 wrote:

Setting Printer Profile Auto means that the printer driver will automatically select the appropriate Canon ICC profile for the media(paper) type selected. You only want to use this setting if you are using Canon paper. It is the same as actually selecting the ICC profile.

Thanks. That is what I do. I have also downloaded ICC profiles from other paper manufacturers when using their paper but I have switched to Canon paper since (just used up paper I already had).

LeeK Loc: Washington State

Jrhoffman75 wrote:

Setting Printer Profile Auto means that the printer driver will automatically select the appropriate Canon ICC profile for the media(paper) type selected. You only want to use this setting if you are using Canon paper. It is the same as actually selecting the ICC profile.

I misread what you suggested. I'll look for the automatic select. There are times when the exact paper type is not listed. Thanks.

Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire

LeeK wrote:

I misread what you suggested. I'll look for the automatic select. There are times when the exact paper type is not listed. Thanks.

If you are using Canon paper and the exact paper type isn't listed then I wouldn't think the printer would have a Canon ICC profile for that paper. Can you provide an example of this occurrence? Thanks.

LeeK Loc: Washington State

Jrhoffman75 wrote:

If you are using Canon paper and the exact paper type isn't listed then I wouldn't think the printer would have a Canon ICC profile for that paper. Can you provide an example of this occurrence? Thanks.

I've been using Photo Paper Plus Semi-gloss, and up until recently without a problem. But.. the choices on Studio add a 2 or 3 to the paper type.

Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire

What you are seeing are the Canon ICC profiles. When you select Standard print quality it is a 3 setting. High quality is a 2 setting.

Canon offers two ICC profiles for that paper - one for quality 1/2 and one for quality 3.

If you select the print quality and Auto the software selects the proper ICC profile. If you mouse-over the Auto window you get a pop-up showing the ICC profile selected by the software.

Since I use Canon paper and third party paper I don't use Auto, I select my ICC profile, Canon paper or other.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

Jrhoffman75 wrote:

Setting Printer Profile Auto means that the printer driver will automatically select the appropriate Canon ICC profile for the media(paper) type selected. You only want to use this setting if you are using Canon paper. It is the same as actually selecting the ICC profile.

OK, thanks. I see that option in the Canon Print Studio Pro and I do have that set to Auto. There is also a Media select choice where you specify the paper. I mostly use Canon paper, but sometimes I use Red River. If I were using Red River, I should change the Printer Profile AND the Media, right? There's also a color mode choice where you can select ICC profile. That seems confusing that the paper has to be selected in two places as well as the ICC profile. The Canon software was working OK for me; but now my print preview shows a wide border and I finally figured out where to change that. This software is only useful if want to print standard sizes.

EDIT: I also noticed that with this software, you can set your preferences and save them as a preset; but if you change something, it switches to custom. So far, so good. However, if you go back to the preset, your original settings are not there; but rather the changed setting(s). Very confusing.

EDIT AGAIN: Never-mind...I see how to "apply" the preset.

Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire

There are two parts to the printing control process. The media type controls how the ink is laid down on the paper. The ICC profile compensates for the color response of the paper and ensures that the input color is correctly represented on the paper.

Canon controls the ink laydown based on their papers. That is why when you use a third party paper like Red River they tell you what media type to select.

As you know, third party papers supply ICC profiles for their paper.

Both parameters need to be specified when printing. For third party papers you would select the recommended media type and the supplied ICC profile in the Printer Profile dropdown.

The primary advantage of Canon Print Studio Pro is that it handles all the necessary settings in the host program (like Lightroom or Photoshop). If you are comfortable printing directly from LR or PS there is no reason to use PSP.

LeeK Loc: Washington State

Will the quality be as good if I print directly from Photoshop? I do like the custom layout settings available with Studio Pro since I have specific sizes/margins that I work with. I haven't used Photoshop in such long time to directly print from but I'll check it out.

LeeK Loc: Washington State

GrandmaG wrote:

OK, thanks. I see that option in the Canon Print S... (show quote)

When I want to print something a different size then the usual, I crop the picture in Photoshop to the size I want before then using Studio Pro. It is next to impossible otherwise Although I did find that you can crop in StudioPro . Haven't done it recently to remember whether it works easily..

Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire

All printing applications will use the Canon printer driver, so quality of output, providing you make the correct selections in the application, will be the same.

There is no downside to printing from PSP, except for an additional step, so no reason to stop using it.

I do recommend that you treat Canon paper like your third party papers by specifically selecting Media Type and appropriate ICC Profile. That way you will avoid any software introduced adjustments that might occur behind the scenes. I just feel that selections labeled Auto and PRO never seem to be.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

LeeK wrote:

When I want to print something a different size then the usual, I crop the picture in Photoshop to the size I want before then using Studio Pro. It is next to impossible otherwise Although I did find that you can crop in StudioPro . Haven't done it recently to remember whether it works easily..

There are '"handles" on the picture to adjust the size and the margin. I did discover that you can crop in Lightroom to 5x3.5 and send to PSP and choose the x4 layout on letter paper. I often need square pictures, sometimes in varying sizes. For example, my daughter needed a 6x6 picture and several 1x1 pictures for a project she was doing. That was quite easy to do in Lightroom; but would have been impossible to do in PSP. I have found that the colors are usually more accurate when printing in PSP. I use a calibrated monitor and use proofing to tweak my settings in Lightroom. I also lighten the pictures from LR in the print job panel. Sometimes the same picture matches exactly in both Lightroom and PSP!!