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May 24, 2019 20:40:33   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
There are many nuances in this subject that are being presented in quite broad and general terms. That is why I tried to narrow my comments to only Canon DSLRs... Things are rarely as simple and straightforward as they are made out to be.😎

IDguy wrote:
Not a bad start. But to understand the effect of image area choices on vignetting the rectangular shape of the image matters. Even if the chosen image area rectangle is square.

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May 24, 2019 20:59:37   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
I don’t own a full frame camera. I don’t understand why lenses are made for a crop sensor camera and different lenses are made for a full frame camera. Why can’t you use a crop sensor lens on a full frame and vice versa?


Money.....

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May 24, 2019 21:22:19   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
When I got my Nikon d70 I always bought FX lens so when fx cameras came out I would be ready and saved money in the long run

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May 24, 2019 21:59:53   #
kdmorris
 
Before I can get into details, what cameea are you using?

Canon doesn’t restrict which lens/body that you use, other than their mirrorless system.

With Nikon, you may not have 100% use of the features available when using a FF Alena in a crop sensor body.

Sony has E and A mount systems.

Which camera are you using?

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May 24, 2019 22:05:37   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
You are dead wrong regarding Canon DSLRs, see my earlier post...

kdmorris wrote:
Before I can get into details, what cameea are you using?

Canon doesn’t restrict which lens/body that you use, other than their mirrorless system.

With Nikon, you may not have 100% use of the features available when using a FF Alena in a crop sensor body.

Sony has E and A mount systems.

Which camera are you using?

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May 24, 2019 22:32:50   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
kdmorris wrote:
Before I can get into details, what cameea are you using?

Canon doesn’t restrict which lens/body that you use, other than their mirrorless system.

With Nikon, you may not have 100% use of the features available when using a FF Alena in a crop sensor body.


KD, tells us the last time you mounted a Canon EF-S lens to a Canon FF body. Some third party EF-S lens will mount to a FF, but not Canon EF-S lens.

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May 24, 2019 22:35:27   #
kdmorris
 
Really?

The only difference in today’s digital age is the auto focus system and the digital system. I know this because I have been shooting with Canon for over 40 years.

I have used USM, Kit lenses as well as L series on a 30D, 70D, 5D MK II and iii with zero issues other than the crop factor, no other issues.

And my reply was to the original author...not you.

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May 24, 2019 22:40:54   #
kdmorris
 
DeanS wrote:
KD, tells us the last time you mounted a Canon EF-S lens to a Canon FF body. Some third party EF-S lens will mount to a FF, but not Canon EF-S lens.




Now you’re fishing.
I am only using Canon glass on a Canon body.
Not a third party lens.
Silver, gold and red bands alike.
I had to buy a 18-135 kit lens because the motor on my 28-105 died while I was on the road to use on my (then) 30D which also worked on my 5D MK III.

So, you can debate MY experiences all you want, that would make you the fool.

I won’t ever debate what someone has experienced when I wasn’t there or the results for them were different from my own.

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May 24, 2019 22:43:02   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
kdmorris wrote:
Really?

The only difference in today’s digital age is the auto focus system and the digital system. I know this because I have been shooting with Canon for over 40 years.

I have used USM, Kit lenses as well as L series on a 30D, 70D, 5D MK II and iii with zero issues other than the crop factor, no other issues.

And my reply was to the original author...not you.


Canon EF lens will mount to a Canon crop body. Try mounting an EF-S (Crop) lens to a Canon FF body. Please let us know the result.

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May 24, 2019 22:51:52   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
kdmorris wrote:
Now you’re fishing.
I am only using Canon glass on a Canon body.
Not a third party lens.
Silver, gold and red bands alike.
I had to buy a 18-135 kit lens because the motor on my 28-105 died while I was on the road to use on my (then) 30D which also worked on my 5D MK III.

So, you can debate MY experiences all you want, that would make you the fool.

I won’t ever debate what someone has experienced when I wasn’t there or the results for them were different from my own.
Now you’re fishing. br I am only using Canon glas... (show quote)


It’s tough having to repeat info. A Canon EF lens will mount to both FF and crop bodies. A Canon EF-S lens will only mount to a Canon crop body. Try an EF-S lens on your 5D/III and let us know the result.

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May 24, 2019 23:03:22   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
ALL sensors are full frame. Because the lens uses the full sensor. Put APS lens on a 35mm DSLR, it will crop the sensor. Adapt a MFT lens to 35mm it will crop it 1/2.

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May 24, 2019 23:20:00   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Except for the sensors that are not Full Frame as the term is commonly used...

kenArchi wrote:
ALL sensors are full frame. Because the lens uses the full sensor. Put APS lens on a 35mm DSLR, it will crop the sensor. Adapt a MFT lens to 35mm it will crop it 1/2.

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May 25, 2019 11:22:54   #
markwilliam1
 
Capiche! Thanks
gvarner wrote:
Each lens type is made to project an image at the size of its associated sensor, to cover its companion sensor. The image projected by a lens built for a crop frame sensor will not cover the full area of a full frame sensor because the full frame sensor is physically bigger than the image coming through the lens. An image projected by a sensor built for a full frame sensor will cover the entire area of a crop frame sensor but data outside that area is lost, it is "cropped out". It’s common to use a full frame lens on a crop frame camera but not the other way around. Capiche?
Each lens type is made to project an image at the ... (show quote)

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May 25, 2019 11:25:04   #
markwilliam1
 
I’m using the A mount on my Sony a77ii.
kdmorris wrote:
Before I can get into details, what cameea are you using?

Canon doesn’t restrict which lens/body that you use, other than their mirrorless system.

With Nikon, you may not have 100% use of the features available when using a FF Alena in a crop sensor body.

Sony has E and A mount systems.

Which camera are you using?

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May 25, 2019 20:43:36   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
I have heard that putting an EF-S lens on a full frame Canon camera will damage the camera because the lens extends backward and will break camera insides.

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