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May 22, 2019 14:43:51   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
Country Boy wrote:
Thanks for all the comment and they are each appreciated. I am getting the feeling that I should hold off for now - I hate to ask for advice on something like this - but your comments really does help me reach a logical decision and not just jump without a real reason. Again, Thanks


I agree that you hold off with what you already have. But in the mean time, based on your camera use (social events, publication in newspaper, family, ...) and need (FF, fast AF, sharp, low light), think about Leica Q which has a fixed and excellent Summilux 28mm and 1.7/f lens. I have Nikon D800E and D500 and many fast lenses but I have been using Leica Q more often for the past three years. It’s light, compact compared to Nikon bodies and its lens has internal anti-vibration which provides tack sharp pictures, sharper than any Nikon fast lenses. Its price has dropped from $4,500 to $3,900 since the introduction of Leica Q2.

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May 22, 2019 15:32:33   #
RickTaylor
 
Country Boy wrote:
Thanks for the response Phil, I have always planned to keep the D7100 myself. I was only thinking of the Z6 until they came out with the AF Eye Detection and that was enough to make me serious. I don't want to go through the recall process so I will likely stay with what I have and re-think it after they are producing factory correct versions. I have a granddaughter taking photography in high school so it may become a loaner or trainer for her when she comes to visit.


If you buy from a local vendor you can see if the camera has a recall by entering the serial number on Nikons website. My local vendor has them in stock and they wont sell if they are recalled. The owner of my local store is a friend and he confirmed

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May 22, 2019 15:42:53   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
RickTaylor wrote:
If you buy from a local vendor you can see if the camera has a recall by entering the serial number on Nikons website. My local vendor has them in stock and they wont sell if they are recalled. The owner of my local store is a friend and he confirmed


That is good to know. I though Nikon would have stopped producing cameras with a flaw as soon as aware of it. If they can handle a recall they must have correct parts and updated software. I could not understand why Nikon would refuse to offer a new version if requested. I am going to take the advise of HOG members and hold off at least for now but if I should decide I will follow your advise and pre-check through a local distributor.

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May 22, 2019 16:20:50   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Country Boy wrote:
CHG CANON I always appreciate your responses and currently I have a Nikon 18-105 3.5-5.6 that I use mostly. I also have a Tokina 100 2.8 Micro, Nikon 35mm 1.8 G, and a Tamron 18-400 3.5-6.3. I don't use them much but I also have a fisheye, 50 mm, and 2 telephoto lens from a previous Minolta Max that with an adapter I use with manual focus.

I have no FX lens but will purchase what I need should I choose to go with a full frame camera. The reason I said that I did not want to make price the deciding factor is because I have the funds to purchase lens as desired. If I stay with the D7100 for now I will look at a better lens - that is a great idea.

Nothing I shoot is critical because I do it for the fun and never charge, not even for the prints I give away. I do however try to produce a good quality result and like all my hobbies, I like to have good equipment. I am a long way from great but getting back into a hobbie that I have kept at arms length for the past 10 years. I appreciate your comments.
CHG CANON I always appreciate your responses and c... (show quote)


Hey CB, you might want to just rent a FF model and lens and see what you think for a week. You might also wait for the next FF Nikon DSLR or MILC. My own experience was the cropped equipment sat unused for 6-months and then I sold it all. I'd hope you enter the change more determined than my own change, once the change is formally decided. Looking up your lenses, it seems the Tokina 100 is a full-frame lens, everything else is DX. The FF equipment is larger and heavier, and typically, more expensive. Hands-on use might be your best approach to deciding.

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May 22, 2019 17:20:30   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Hey CB, you might want to just rent a FF model and lens and see what you think for a week. You might also wait for the next FF Nikon DSLR or MILC. My own experience was the cropped equipment sat unused for 6-months and then I sold it all. I'd hope you enter the change more determined than my own change, once the change is formally decided. Looking up your lenses, it seems the Tokina 100 is a full-frame lens, everything else is DX. The FF equipment is larger and heavier, and typically, more expensive. Hands-on use might be your best approach to deciding.
Hey CB, you might want to just rent a FF model and... (show quote)


Thanks, I think I will hold off at least until I see what the new D760 has to offer. As always, I appreciate your feedback!

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May 23, 2019 06:00:30   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
Trade-in your 7100 and get the D500. I did and really enjoy the D500. I like the bigger buffer and the crop factor. I just bought the body not the kit as I already had a 24-120 F4 lens. I think the rumors on the D760 only infer a full frame. Rumors are rumors the D500 is real. I enjoy mine, keep shooting...

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May 23, 2019 06:19:45   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Dat Quach wrote:
I agree that you hold off with what you already have. But in the mean time, based on your camera use (social events, publication in newspaper, family, ...) and need (FF, fast AF, sharp, low light), think about Leica Q which has a fixed and excellent Summilux 28mm and 1.7/f lens. I have Nikon D800E and D500 and many fast lenses but I have been using Leica Q more often for the past three years. It’s light, compact compared to Nikon bodies and its lens has internal anti-vibration which provides tack sharp pictures, sharper than any Nikon fast lenses. Its price has dropped from $4,500 to $3,900 since the introduction of Leica Q2.
I agree that you hold off with what you already ha... (show quote)


There’s always at least one! 😜😜

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May 23, 2019 06:34:50   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Country Boy wrote:
I currently have a Nikon D7100 and to be honest it meets my needs. I have been into photography since 1967 and now retired and my needs have been greatly reduced. Mostly my photos are of people in church/business presentations or basic activity. I normally have 5 to 10 photos published with newspaper articles each year mostly getting awards or just family type shots. Last year I did a 2 DVD package of historical events shooting documents and stills (2,045 photos) for a scholarship fund. I have been thinking of purchasing a new camera mostly for faster focus, better low light performance and better detail although I am not displeased with my D7100. I am between two camera choices now but have a third coming.

I have not used a full frame camera and can't judge what detail improvements I would receive but the Nikon Z6 on sale now has the AF Eye detection software which would be a great tool. I called Nikon and asked if I purchased the Z6 from them could they send one currently out of production that would not be subject to the recall and was told they cannot, you get what you get. On the other hand, the D500 although not full frame could use all the lens I have (5 that covers my needs) and covers the faster focus and low light requirement.

I would like to know what experienced photographers would choose. The Z6 is now on sale for $2,399.95 with the 24-70 mm lens (4.?) and a free FTZ adaptor which is a savings of $450.00. Currently the D500 body only is $1,499.95 and with the 16-70 mm f2.8 4E ED VR lens which I like it goes for $2,099.95 which is a retail savings of $670.00. While I like the savings, I don't want that to drive my decision.

Would you select one of these or hold off to see what the new D760 due out in the fall has to offer or see which other Nikon cameras will get the AF Eye detection upgrade? Thanks for any input.
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Sounds like you are considering a wide field of products. SO
1. You said you are getting what you need from your current equipment, so, why not wait for a while and see what develop's (sorry, could not help myself).
2. I know many Nikon folks who has waited for an upgrade just to have their hopes dashed. Nikon has announced nothing about an upgrade to their D750. And further, have not even named the camera or assigned a number. So, good luck with that. It may happen and may not.
3. I never buy the first version of any camera line. If it were me (and it's not) I would use your current equipment and wait for the second generation of Z camera's. If you can't, the D500 is your best option at the moment. BUT wait, Nikon always includes a free vertical grip for that camera during the coming December holidays. So, I would wait until the 2019 Holiday season to make a decision and maybe by then Nikon will surprise everyone with a announcement of the release of the new D770.

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May 23, 2019 07:01:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Regardless what you buy, a recall is always a possibility, but it's no big deal. A few days ago, there was a discussion about that camera-and-lens deal, and the general opinion was that the lens offer is to get rid of the old stock before they introduce the new 24-70mm If you really like and want the Z6, go for it! If the new 24-70mm is a vast improvement over the current one, you can sell your lens and buy the new one. I don't believe in waiting for perfection.

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May 23, 2019 07:01:54   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
If yours trulyDX then he D500

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May 23, 2019 07:02:27   #
jeryh Loc: Oxfordshire UK
 
Get the D500 !

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May 23, 2019 07:03:53   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
billnikon wrote:
Sounds like you are considering a wide field of products. SO
1. You said you are getting what you need from your current equipment, so, why not wait for a while and see what develop's (sorry, could not help myself).
2. I know many Nikon folks who has waited for an upgrade just to have their hopes dashed. Nikon has announced nothing about an upgrade to their D750. And further, have not even named the camera or assigned a number. So, good luck with that. It may happen and may not.
3. I never buy the first version of any camera line. If it were me (and it's not) I would use your current equipment and wait for the second generation of Z camera's. If you can't, the D500 is your best option at the moment. BUT wait, Nikon always includes a free vertical grip for that camera during the coming December holidays. So, I would wait until the 2019 Holiday season to make a decision and maybe by then Nikon will surprise everyone with a announcement of the release of the new D770.
Sounds like you are considering a wide field of pr... (show quote)


Thanks for the response. It is not that I can't live with the current camera it is more like buying a new car. You want something a little larger, faster, powerful etc. not that your current vehicle won't get you there. I think you are right however, I don't need to rush and who knows, Nikon may come through in a way I had not pictured.

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May 23, 2019 07:12:05   #
SonyBug
 
imagemeister wrote:
My recommendation is to get into mirrorless as quickly as you can afford it and forget DSLR's.
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I sold all my Nikon gear and went with the Sony a7m3. Here is what I like about it.

I only have to have two lenses to cover all my bases. Tamron 28-85 2.8, and Sony 80-300 variable aperture.
The lens that stays on the camera the most is the Tamron. The combo has almost no grain in low light, fantastic color rendition and I am putting a photo I too two weeks ago here to show you the detail. This was shot handheld, from a ship of the cabins in the bay leading into Stockholm. You be the judge. If you want quality, lightness with minimal cost, this is the choice I would make again. The photo is SOOC.

Archipelago in Stockholm Sweden
Archipelago in Stockholm Sweden...
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May 23, 2019 07:13:49   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Regardless what you buy, a recall is always a possibility, but it's no big deal. A few days ago, there was a discussion about that camera-and-lens deal, and the general opinion was that the lens offer is to get rid of the old stock before they introduce the new 24-70mm If you really like and want the Z6, go for it! If the new 24-70mm is a vast improvement over the current one, you can sell your lens and buy the new one. I don't believe in waiting for perfection.


Jerry, I appreciate your view and I guess I am waiting for perfection in your view but I just don't purchase something that won't meet my desires if I can help it. If I had no camera I may rush a purchase and try and sell or swap lens etc. later but I figure my next camera will likely be my last camera purchase since photography is a hobby and not something I live for. like billnikon, I really don't normally purchase the first on any model be it toy or vehicle. However, I can appreciate your comment and you could be right!

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May 23, 2019 07:17:15   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
nikonbug wrote:
I sold all my Nikon gear and went with the Sony a7m3. Here is what I like about it.

I only have to have two lenses to cover all my bases. Tamron 28-85 2.8, and Sony 80-300 variable aperture.
The lens that stays on the camera the most is the Tamron. The combo has almost no grain in low light, fantastic color rendition and I am putting a photo I too two weeks ago here to show you the detail. This was shot handheld, from a ship of the cabins in the bay leading into Stockholm. You be the judge. If you want quality, lightness with minimal cost, this is the choice I would make again. The photo is SOOC.
I sold all my Nikon gear and went with the Sony a7... (show quote)


Thanks for the response, the agent at B&H also suggested a Sony. He said there is an adapter that will let me use my current lens with a Sony and auto focus and everything work fine. I guess I am stuck on Nikon however.

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