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May 13, 2019 11:40:02   #
BebuLamar
 
ek2lckd wrote:
YOU HAVE AUTO-ISO SET AND YOU ARE SPOT METERING.... Ed sri for shouting.....


As it turned out the underexposed shot was not on Auto ISO. Spot metering could cause problem but it didn't. The problem is that the camera was in shutter priority and it run out of aperture to open up. It was at maximum aperture already.

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May 13, 2019 12:06:43   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
ek2lckd wrote:
YOU HAVE AUTO-ISO SET AND YOU ARE SPOT METERING.... Ed sri for shouting.....


Thanks, Ed, what do you recommend?

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May 13, 2019 12:09:11   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
My 1 series Canons can tie the spot metering to the focus point. I am not sure that other Canon series bodies can though.


Pretty sure most Canons use center for spot metering vs. follow the focus point.

An easy way to check is to put the camera in M mode and watch the meter as you move the focus point.

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May 13, 2019 12:13:54   #
BebuLamar
 
IDguy wrote:
Pretty sure most Canons use center for spot metering vs. follow the focus point.

An easy way to check is to put the camera in M mode and watch the meter as you move the focus point.


Now I am lost. I set my camera up for using all of the focus points and let it automatically select so which point does it use for spot metering?

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May 13, 2019 12:40:58   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Look up in your canon camera manual how it works with spot metering... it will either be the center point only or the active focus point. Not sure how it would work if attached to the active point and you have a multiple point focus mode selected. It might then use the center point also.???

BebuLamar wrote:
Now I am lost. I set my camera up for using all of the focus points and let it automatically select so which point does it use for spot metering?

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May 13, 2019 13:44:17   #
k2edm Loc: FN32AD
 
Dziadzi wrote:
Thanks, Ed, what do you recommend?


might want to average meter scenes that have high differ between hilits and dark areas, or eliminate them from shot...tho usually fixable afterwards...just realizing what is going on is 99% of the solution, and you are there......

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May 13, 2019 15:29:31   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Now I am lost. I set my camera up for using all of the focus points and let it automatically select so which point does it use for spot metering?


Try the test I mentioned. Turn on the LCD, put in M mode with some reasonable settings, and move the camera while watching the meter and what your focus points are on.

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May 13, 2019 15:57:18   #
bleirer
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Now I am lost. I set my camera up for using all of the focus points and let it automatically select so which point does it use for spot metering?


What camera is it? People keep saying Canon, but you said D7100 in your post. This is for Nikon D7100:



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May 13, 2019 16:27:05   #
bleirer
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s high school baseball game. I had my D7100 set up just like Nasim Manusurov recommended. Specifically Shutter Priority and auto-iso. The day was a clear blue sky at about 5p.m. EDT. For whatever reason, the ISO (though I didn’t include all the photos taken) is all over the place. Even the some of the RAW photos show under-exposure. I shoot RAW+JPEG and ususally convert the RAW to JPEG using Photoshop.

So, my question to you guys and gals is: “Am I doing something wrong, or is the camera in need of an adjustment/repair?” I hope that the metadata lends some information to help you help me.

Your thoughts and consideration are appreciated.
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s hig... (show quote)


So going back to your original question, I see how the ISO could be "all over the place" as you said. With Spot metering and shutter priority, The meter is trying to provide an average exposure for the little spot in the center. If you point the little spot in the middle at the blue shirt you will get one reading, the white pants another, if it lands on his skin yet another, and the helmet would also be different. It's not impossible to use spot metering and shutter priority and even auto ISO in this situation, but to keep the exposure from jumping all over you would want to aim at something you is think close to the middle tone, lock the exposure (I'm guessing a partial shutter press does that, but I don't know your camera), recompose, and shoot. That is why a lot of people are suggesting to use manual exposure if you want to spot meter, because that way you would focus on the spot you think is a good middle tone, set the exposure, and keep it there.

Or you could switch to matrix metering with shutter priority and auto ISO, because that metering mode is using light from the whole scene to try to give you an average exposure, not just one little spot.

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May 13, 2019 16:44:21   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
bleirer wrote:
So going back to your original question, I see how the ISO could be "all over the place" as you said. With Spot metering and shutter priority, The meter is trying to provide an average exposure for the little spot in the center. If you point the little spot in the middle at the blue shirt you will get one reading, the white pants another, if it lands on his skin yet another, and the helmet would also be different. It's not impossible to use spot metering and shutter priority and even auto ISO in this situation, but to keep the exposure from jumping all over you would want to aim at something you is think close to the middle tone, lock the exposure (I'm guessing a partial shutter press does that, but I don't know your camera), recompose, and shoot. That is why a lot of people are suggesting to use manual exposure if you want to spot meter, because that way you would focus on the spot you think is a good middle tone, set the exposure, and keep it there.

Or you could switch to matrix metering with shutter priority and auto ISO, because that metering mode is using light from the whole scene to try to give you an average exposure, not just one little spot.
So going back to your original question, I see how... (show quote)


Thanks for your suggestions. :)

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May 13, 2019 16:53:33   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
If your spot metering is locked to the center focus point I would probably just use matrix metering with auto ISO.

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May 13, 2019 17:22:06   #
LMurray Loc: North Orange County, CA
 
bleirer wrote:
What camera is it? People keep saying Canon, but you said D7100 in your post. This is for Nikon D7100:


It says in his signature line Nikon D7100.

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May 13, 2019 17:28:56   #
BebuLamar
 
bleirer wrote:
What camera is it? People keep saying Canon, but you said D7100 in your post. This is for Nikon D7100:


Thanks! I have the Nikon Df but it's the same. Because I enable multi point focus it would use only the center focus point for spot metering.

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May 13, 2019 17:40:53   #
bleirer
 
LMurray wrote:
It says in his signature line Nikon D7100.


Then why is everyone giving advice about Canon? I guess the original topic has strayed.

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May 14, 2019 14:36:27   #
Bill P
 
I suspect that you problem is using a reflected light meter. When shooting for a living, I always used an incident light meter. Was super easy to use, just do what it tells you, no need to interpret.

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