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May 10, 2019 05:46:26   #
BebuLamar
 
the f/stops here wrote:
It seems to me that by being in shutter priority, your leaving the camera two variables to control. Why not use manual exposure control with you setting both the shutter speed and the aperture and giving the camera the ISO to control. I think by doing this you’ll find more consistent results.


I think the light is quite consistent so I would rather give the camera no controls and set everything manually.

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May 10, 2019 05:53:36   #
rmm0605 Loc: Atlanta GA
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s high school baseball game. I had my D7100 set up just like Nasim Manusurov recommended. Specifically Shutter Priority and auto-iso. The day was a clear blue sky at about 5p.m. EDT. For whatever reason, the ISO (though I didn’t include all the photos taken) is all over the place. Even the some of the RAW photos show under-exposure. I shoot RAW+JPEG and ususally convert the RAW to JPEG using Photoshop.

So, my question to you guys and gals is: “Am I doing something wrong, or is the camera in need of an adjustment/repair?” I hope that the metadata lends some information to help you help me.

Your thoughts and consideration are appreciated.
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s hig... (show quote)


The pictures are fine (except for some horizon issues).

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May 10, 2019 06:38:53   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Yes, if the ISO is fixed and the Shutter Speed is fixed then the only adjustment the camera can make is Aperture and once that is wide open then all that remains is under exposure.

I have seen people bump against this fact when bracketing or using exposure compensation too.

BebuLamar wrote:
I open the underexposed file in View NX2 and I found it's on fixed ISO 160, aperture f/6.3, 1/4000 sec in shutter priority mode. Spot metering and the focus point is center so it pointing at the arm and the blue shirt.
So I don't think the spot metering would cause underexposure but since the camera is in shutter priority and the aperture is at max aperture and fixed ISO the camera simply went ahead and underexposed the shot.
In the brightest condition which is sunny 16 the shot is still underexposed by 2 and 1/3 stops.
I increased the exposure by 2.3 stop in PS and it looks fine.
I open the underexposed file in View NX2 and I fou... (show quote)

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May 10, 2019 06:39:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Although using a high ISO can be useful, I don't like the results. Even going from 100 to 800 on my D750, I can see the difference - noise!

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May 10, 2019 07:21:36   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
I think the metering may be messing with you. About a year I shot a series of photos of a contrasty shot with a d500 and long lens changing only the metering from spot to matrix and all the choices in between and the results were significantly different.

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May 10, 2019 07:41:07   #
khorinek
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s high school baseball game. I had my D7100 set up just like Nasim Manusurov recommended. Specifically Shutter Priority and auto-iso. The day was a clear blue sky at about 5p.m. EDT. For whatever reason, the ISO (though I didn’t include all the photos taken) is all over the place. Even the some of the RAW photos show under-exposure. I shoot RAW+JPEG and ususally convert the RAW to JPEG using Photoshop.

So, my question to you guys and gals is: “Am I doing something wrong, or is the camera in need of an adjustment/repair?” I hope that the metadata lends some information to help you help me.

Your thoughts and consideration are appreciated.
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s hig... (show quote)


The Exif Data says spot metering & 3200 ISO. I'm not sure if the data would say if ISO was set on Auto. I use auto ISO outdoors and I've not seen auto show up in the data. My suggestion, use evaluative metering and ISO 100 (if sunshiny day). You have a shutter speed of 3200, that may kick your ISO up some as well. For baseball, I've used a shutter speed between 800-1000 with good results.

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May 10, 2019 07:45:57   #
ELNikkor
 
Either way, in this situation, the meter, (which is not human), is going to be thrown off by the gray wall, and the bright white pants on the player. Since it looks like a sunny day, just take a few shots on manual, of the batter in the box, having your shutter speed at least 1/1,000 sec. and see what setting gives you the correct exposure. Keep it on manual, and your photos will be consistent and correctly exposed.

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May 10, 2019 07:46:20   #
miked46 Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
 
I would have set the AUTO ISO, AT A LIMIT, LIKE 800 MAX

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May 10, 2019 07:57:50   #
BebuLamar
 
khorinek wrote:
The Exif Data says spot metering & 3200 ISO. I'm not sure if the data would say if ISO was set on Auto. I use auto ISO outdoors and I've not seen auto show up in the data. My suggestion, use evaluative metering and ISO 100 (if sunshiny day). You have a shutter speed of 3200, that may kick your ISO up some as well. For baseball, I've used a shutter speed between 800-1000 with good results.


The first shot at ISO 3200 and the camera was on auto ISO. The second at ISO 160 and not auto ISO.

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May 10, 2019 08:27:19   #
Nikon1201
 
I first take a test shot and look at my histogram . If shutter or aperture I will adjust my exposer compensation. Your shots a little under exposed can be edited easier in PP

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May 10, 2019 08:31:33   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s high school baseball game. I had my D7100 set up just like Nasim Manusurov recommended. Specifically Shutter Priority and auto-iso. The day was a clear blue sky at about 5p.m. EDT. For whatever reason, the ISO (though I didn’t include all the photos taken) is all over the place. Even the some of the RAW photos show under-exposure. I shoot RAW+JPEG and ususally convert the RAW to JPEG using Photoshop.

So, my question to you guys and gals is: “Am I doing something wrong, or is the camera in need of an adjustment/repair?” I hope that the metadata lends some information to help you help me.

Your thoughts and consideration are appreciated.
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s hig... (show quote)

I don't know who Nasim is, but if you post this in the Sports section, there are some pretty good shooters (some professional) who shoot a lot of baseball. Good news, it's not the camera. Spot metering does you no favors in Auto-ISO. Switch to matrix. Also, 1/1000- 1/1600 is plenty of shutter speed. I usually shoot Manual with auto ISO so I don't have to compensate as often if nearing sundown. In mid day, a couple of shots and check your histogram, lock in a good exposure and you are off and running!

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May 10, 2019 09:06:18   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s high school baseball game. I had my D7100 set up just like Nasim Manusurov recommended. Specifically Shutter Priority and auto-iso. The day was a clear blue sky at about 5p.m. EDT. For whatever reason, the ISO (though I didn’t include all the photos taken) is all over the place. Even the some of the RAW photos show under-exposure. I shoot RAW+JPEG and ususally convert the RAW to JPEG using Photoshop.

So, my question to you guys and gals is: “Am I doing something wrong, or is the camera in need of an adjustment/repair?” I hope that the metadata lends some information to help you help me.

Your thoughts and consideration are appreciated.
I took these photos yesterday at my grandson’s hig... (show quote)


A reason I never shoot with Auto-ISO. I set my ISO for the "known" conditions, and spotmeter off a mid tone (in your case the gray building), or meter of a dark or light area but make the appropriate setting or EC for that tone. Also manual exposure with AF can be your friend. The D7100 knows what it is doing, the people, not quite.

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May 10, 2019 09:12:48   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I think the light is quite consistent so I would rather give the camera no controls and set everything manually.


I will try Manual on the next outing with 1/1000. My only problem is that I have no idea what the Aperture should be set to. Also, I would not know what the histogram is, even if it bit me on the ass.

Thanks for the information.

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May 10, 2019 09:19:52   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
rmm0605 wrote:
The pictures are fine (except for some horizon issues).


Hmmmm, I religiously use the horizon indicator in the view finder when composing the shots. Thanks for your concern.

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May 10, 2019 09:23:36   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
tommystrat wrote:
It appears to me that you were using spot metering, which would possibly explain why the ISO was so jumpy. Perhaps center-weighted metering would be more appropriate, especially when shooting action shots. Just my thought, and I could be mistaken...


My guess also and I looked - he was using spot focus. In addition the shutter was 1/3200. That would stop a humming birds wings. 1/500 would likely be fine and get the ISO way down. As for spot metering, if you focused on the batters dark top, one reading, drop to the white pants, another. I agree with center weight or be more diligent with the spot

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