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May 6, 2019 10:06:08   #
peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 
mas24 wrote:
But, there are rules. At the Olympics, a Track and Field competitor is required to stay in their running lane on certain races. You step out of your lane, and bump someone, you are disqualified. I've seen Olympics Medals lost because of that rule.
Track & field rules apply to both laned and unlaned races. A runner who obstructs so as to impede another's progress and gain a material advantage will be disqualified. Bicycle races have similar rules. Looks like horse racing also has similar rules.

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May 6, 2019 10:48:45   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Motocross has no such rules...But sometimes it is prudent to Hold Your Line...

peterg wrote:
Track & field rules apply to both laned and unlaned races. A runner who obstructs so as to impede another's progress and gain a material advantage will be disqualified. Bicycle races have similar rules. Looks like horse racing also has similar rules.

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May 6, 2019 11:52:54   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JeffL wrote:
The stewards reviewed the incident repeatedly from different angles to determine that a foul occurred. The video shows that two jockeys had to pull up their animals to avoid potential collisions. If a collision had occurred at the front of the pack, it could have taken down multiple horses and riders. Even if you don’t agree with the DQ, just be glad there were no injuries to the jockeys and mounts. I’ve seen too many horses put down from an injury that is “fixable” for a jockey, but not for a horse. It is so sad to see one of these magnificent animals in horrific pain and having their lives ended at such a young age.
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May 6, 2019 15:02:32   #
oregon don
 
JeffL wrote:
The stewards reviewed the incident repeatedly from different angles to determine that a foul occurred. The video shows that two jockeys had to pull up their animals to avoid potential collisions. If a collision had occurred at the front of the pack, it could have taken down multiple horses and riders. Even if you don’t agree with the DQ, just be glad there were no injuries to the jockeys and mounts. I’ve seen too many horses put down from an injury that is “fixable” for a jockey, but not for a horse. It is so sad to see one of these magnificent animals in horrific pain and having their lives ended at such a young age.
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I was in Chicago and watched a race, found that my wife was a good picker so I put some money on a horse, not knowing anything about it. wouldn't you know it that horse was leading at the last turn, then he fell down and broke his leg, then they shot him! my last time at the races.

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May 6, 2019 15:23:33   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Dannj wrote:
Seems like jockeys have to keep their horses in lane...I didn’t know that. It’s odd the horse that was fouled didn’t benefit from the decision.


They do not have to "keep them in lane" but they do have to be clear of the horse that they cut in front of so that its gait is maintained without interference. The problem is that the interference may have caused the horse interfered with to lose the race.

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May 6, 2019 16:46:37   #
goofybruce
 
crowd noise caused the horse to shy TOWARD the crowd? It was the home stretch where the crowd is on the right side of the horses running, yet the "fouling" horse came off the rail and toward the right?

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May 6, 2019 17:36:53   #
pendennis
 
goofybruce wrote:
crowd noise caused the horse to shy TOWARD the crowd? It was the home stretch where the crowd is on the right side of the horses running, yet the "fouling" horse came off the rail and toward the right?


There are no grandstands at the clubhouse turn. However, there are a lot of folks watching in the infield, and they can be quite raucous. They tend to mob-up at the turns. If noisy enough, a horse would shy away from the infield.

I've been in the infield more than a few times. You've never been drunk, until you've been in the infield on Derby Day. Before things got really tight, it was a contest to see just how creative you could be, trying to smuggle booze in.

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May 6, 2019 23:06:59   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I understand that the owners of the horse that was disqualified have decided not to run in the Preakness. Kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face, if you ask me.

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May 6, 2019 23:54:47   #
pumakat
 
SteveR wrote:
I understand that the owners of the horse that was disqualified have decided not to run in the Preakness. Kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face, if you ask me.


Racing is hard on horses. Max Security has no shot at the triple crown. He ran his heart out in the derby. I think it makes sense to give him a rest.

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May 7, 2019 04:36:18   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
It becomes a media game now perhaps... Maximum Security was the fastest horse on Saturday...

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May 7, 2019 08:51:17   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SteveR wrote:
I understand that the owners of the horse that was disqualified have decided not to run in the Preakness. Kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face, if you ask me.


They fear being beaten by perhaps even 2 or 3 other horses which will make their appeal look even more lame than it already is.

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May 7, 2019 10:34:52   #
pendennis
 
Architect1776 wrote:
They fear being beaten by perhaps even 2 or 3 other horses which will make their appeal look even more lame than it already is.


More likely that with no Triple Crown at stake, the colt has no prestige to gain in the other two races.

Winning the Triple Crown guarantees a fine career at stud. However, there's racing beyond these three races. Race horses are not at their best as three-year olds. They get better as they get to the four- and five-year old stages. Later this year, horses can make a bundle in The Breeders' Cup Challenge.

In earlier times, horses such as Kelso made a bundle for their owners as a more mature horse.

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May 7, 2019 11:13:19   #
pumakat
 
Wasn't Kelso a gelding?

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May 7, 2019 12:15:14   #
pendennis
 
pumakat wrote:
Wasn't Kelso a gelding?


Yes, he was. Gelding a race horse often helps them become better. Kelso was skittish and hard to handle. Afterwards, he became a superb racer.

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May 8, 2019 18:27:43   #
pumakat
 
So, then he was no prospect as a stud.

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