bfoster wrote:
Hi, I have a Canon 800D and I am looking for a good, multi-purpose lens for it that has wide angle. I do not want to pay more than $350-ish. I have read some good reviews of the Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM. Has anyone used this, and if so, what do you think? Other recommendations of a multi-purpose Canon-compatible lens with wide angle that can be bought (used is fine with me) for under $400?
I agree with some of the previous responses... based on what you want from a lens, a 24-105mm is not a good choice for you.
On a Canon 800D (which is called a Rebel T7i here in N. America)... a "crop sensor" camera... 24mm is simply not very wide. It's only very slightly wide angle.
If you want a wide angle, your best bet would be AT least 20mm (mildly wide), 18mm (moderately wide) or even wider such as 10mm or 11mm (ultrawide).
Didn't you get a lens with the camera? 800D/T7i are typically fitted with either an EF-S 18-55mm (moderately wide to short telephoto) or an EF-S 18-135mm (moderately wide to moderate telephoto).
If you have one of those lenses and want still wider, there's an affordable option in the Canon EF-S 10-18mm IS STM... which sells new for around $270 right now. An alternative (better built, larger aperture) is the Canon EF-S 10-22mm USM (around $600 new, might be able to find used for around $400). Both of these lenses are optically excellent and capable. The 10-18mm is somewhat plasticky, similar to the cheaper "kit" lens in build quality. But it's one of the least expensive, lightest weight and smallest of the ultrawide (UWA) zooms. It's also the first to have image stabilization (Tamron and Nikon have since introduced UWA lenses with stabilization, too).
CORRECTION: I just noticed that Canon currently has a HUGE discount on the EF-S 10-22mm USM lens.... it's now selling for $399! That's a great deal! I've never seen that lens offered new for less than $600!
If you don't mind manual focus, there is the Rokinon/Samyang 14mm f/2.8 prime lens, too... which is reasonably affordable. It's also a manual aperture lens, though. So it will often be slower to shoot with and when it's stopped down your viewfinder will dim down too, making manual focusing more difficult. This lens sells under various brand names (also relabeled Bower, Vivitar and others). In the Canon mount, there's a "chipped" version that costs a little more, but I recommend because it allows your camera's Focus Confirmation feature to work, which can be helpful when trying to do manual focus.
There are numerous other ultrawides... most of which are zooms. They include:
Tokina AT-X 11-16mm f/2.8.... $399... has the largest available lens aperture among the UWA. This is an older design still avail. new, but that was superseded a couple years ago by an improved Tokina AT-X 11-20mm f/2.8. The older lens is VERY sharp, but it's also got a very narrow range of focal lengths AND it's highly susceptible to flare (the two Canon lenses are among the most resistant to flare).
Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5... $399... used to be one of the most expensive, but the price has been greatly reduced. This is a decent lens, but also one of the largest and heaviest of the UWA.
Tokina AT-X 12-28mm f/4.... $379... with a one stop slower aperture and broader, but less extreme range of focal lengths, this is a newer lens than the above 11-16mm. (The 12-28mm superseded an earlier 12-24mm f/4 that's no longer available new.) All these Tokina AT-X Pro lenses are quite nicely built. One thing though, is that they use an unusual "focus clutch" mechanism to shift from auto to manual focus. The entire focus ring slides slightly forward or backward to engage or disengage auto focus. This works fine, but means the Tokina lenses don't have "full time manual focus override", the way the Sigma HSM, Canon STM and Canon USM lenses do.
Rokinon/Samyang 16mm f/2... $349... is another manual focus, manual aperture lens... with the largest aperture available on an affordable ultrawide. f/2 is a full stop faster than f/2.8... two stops faster than f/4. This is a fairly new lens... I don't know much about it.
How large an aperture do you need? Well, it depends upon what you plan to shoot. Someone doing night photography might want as fast a lens as possible, in order to have brighter viewfinder. But for most other purposes (scenic shots, architecture, yada, yada), we stop our wide angle lenses down to middle apertures anyway, to make for greater depth of field.
There are other ultrawides... but they will be over your budget, unless you shop used and find a good deal on one.
But, maybe you just want a "wide"... not an "ultrawide". In that case, the inexpensive option is the EF-S 18-55mm and the more expensive is the EF-S 18-135mm. In either case, be sure to get at least the "STM" version. There are older, non-STM versions of them too, which should sell for less... but use a slower/noisier micro motor auto focus drive and lack some optical improvements. Those micro motor lenses also require you turn off the AF at the switch before manually focusing them (failing to do so will damage the AF mechanism). For those reasons, I recommend the at least the STM versions. There also is an even better "USM" version of the 18-135mm... but it will typically sell for more than you want to spend. It's optically identical to the STM version... just has higher performance auto focus (it uses Canon's latest "Nano USM", in fact). Between the 18-55mm and 18-135mm options, the latter are better built, and obviously would be more versatile.
Canon also has for some time offered EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM and EF-S 15-85mm IS USM lenses, both of which are excellent. These sell new for considerably more than you want to spend... but if you find a good, used one for within your budget, jump on it!
All the Canon lenses mentioned do not come with their matched lens hoods... those are sold separately. If it's not included with a used lens, I highly recommend getting the appropriate hood for any lens you purchase, which will both make for better images and help protect the lens from bumps while in use. The matched lens Canon hoods typically cost about $25. There are third party "clones" which are less expensive, but may or may not be as well made or fit as securely on the lens.