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Aug 22, 2012 17:37:52   #
rocar7 Loc: Alton, England
 
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
Most of us find that Elements does everything we want, especially if you also have LR4 which has the same RAW converter as CS.

I have Lightroom 4 but I can't find anything remotely similar to Photoshop CS6's Camera Raw.


In the Develop module, the right hand pane is the RAW converter (version 7.1). It looks different and is laid out differently, but it is exactly the same as the RAW converter in CS6.

Definitely not exactly the same. In fact, I'd say completely different. In fact, the sliders in the Develop module are extremely sensitive whereas the sliders in Adobe Camera Raw with Photoshop CS6 are not. I find myself using half the settings in Lightroom that I use in ACR CS6.
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I'm not sure if you're saying it's better or worse. If you find the sliders more sensitive and you only use half the settings does that mean it gives you a wider range of adjustments?

If you go to Help in LR4 and click on About Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.1... It lists the converter as Camera RAW 7.1, which is the same as CS6, so they should be identical in their effects.

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Aug 22, 2012 18:10:27   #
Ziza Loc: USA
 
rocar7 wrote:
JAW wrote:
danielb59 wrote:
I just received an email from Adobe offering CS6 at a discounted price of $199, which is $400 off the original price. According to Adobe, the discount is offered as a way of enticement to upgrade from Elements to Photoshop. I have Elements 8 and was anticipating upgrading to Elements 11 when it is offered which, I assume, would be in the near future. I am mostly a hobbyist and have been quite comfortable with Elements, but at this price offering for CS6, I was wondering if it would be worth it to do the upgrade or just wait for the new Elements which, I assume, would be offered for around $100. My question: would the extra $200 price tag for CS6 be worth it to me or should I just wait for the new Elements to be issued and purchase it instead? Is Photoshop that much better than Elements?
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You state you are looking to upgrade, possibly to PSE11. I don't know how much that upgrade price may be. If PSE11 were bought outright - I would think it would be around $100, so the difference between the offer of CS6 for $199 and the outright price for PSE11 would be around $100 instead of $200 if my math is correct.

If I knew positively that I could upgrade from an older PSE version (like PSE6) to the new CS6, I think I'd give it a go. CS6 has so much more to offer and if you are correct in your thinking, for the extra money to upgrade, I think it would be well worthwhile to do so. IMHO (in my humble opinion)
I would like to ask you and any others that received this offer a few questions:
Since I have not seen the offer, is there, maybe, a catch (strings attached) to the offer? Possibly anything you might have overlooked in the offer? Please reread your offer and post back with any updates.
Example: is the upgrade only good for a student, teacher, or educator? Is it just an upgrade for the education field?
Is the offer only good for those that have the latest Element program (PSE10) that would like to upgrade to CS6 for the $199 price?

Many questions that need answered before we jump to conclusions as to eligibility.
If you have further info, please post it as I'm sure someone may wish to upgrade but not know if they are qualified or eligible to do so.
Thank you for the info, hope to hear more about this offer real soon. If I were offered this, I think I'd have a hard time turning it down at the price stated.
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Here is the main text from the email issued in the UK:


Go big for so little.

Get new Photoshop CS6 at a great low price.

You’ve been producing sensational photos with Adobe®
Photoshop® Elements software. Now, you can produce
virtually anything you can imagine at blazingly fast speeds.
Packed with imaging magic, here are a few examples of
what’s ahead when you move up to Photoshop CS6.

Stunning images – Use Content-Aware features to move,
remove and extend objects. With fine controls and a magic
touch, the creative possibilities are limitless and your work
can look flawless.

Spectacular highlights and lowlights – With Adobe
Camera Raw 7 in Photoshop CS6, you can reveal details
in the highlights of an image while still retaining rich detail
in the shadows.

The coolest videos – Put your ideas in motion. With the new
video tools in Photoshop CS6, you can create movies that have
slick transitions, powerful stills, eye-catching effects – and so
much more.

Purchase Photoshop CS6 today and get 50% off the standard price – exclusively for Photoshop Elements owners.*
Buy now

To order by phone, call 0800 0280148 for Adobe Sales and mention offer code 8L9U. Have your Adobe Photoshop Elements serial code ready for verification.

Get a Photoshop CS6 subscription edition for as low as £17.58
(including VAT) per month.
Subscribe now

As you can see, the offer is for half price CS6 (£333) for PSE users. There is an upgrade offer (£190) if you have CS3 or later.

You cannot "upgrade" from PSE to CS6.
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I got an e-mail from Adobe. It said:

50% off PS CS6 full price (50% off $699) -- for owners of Photoshop Elements.
$199 -- for owners of PS CS4 and PS CS5.

The Adobe website confirms it. When you select Upgrade as your purchasing option, no version of Photoshop Elements is listed.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html

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Aug 22, 2012 20:41:41   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
rocar7 wrote:
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
Most of us find that Elements does everything we want, especially if you also have LR4 which has the same RAW converter as CS.

I have Lightroom 4 but I can't find anything remotely similar to Photoshop CS6's Camera Raw.


In the Develop module, the right hand pane is the RAW converter (version 7.1). It looks different and is laid out differently, but it is exactly the same as the RAW converter in CS6.


Definitely not exactly the same. In fact, I'd say completely different. In fact, the sliders in the Develop module are extremely sensitive whereas the sliders in Adobe Camera Raw with Photoshop CS6 are not. I find myself using half the settings in Lightroom that I use in ACR CS6.
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I'm not sure if you're saying it's better or worse. If you find the sliders more sensitive and you only use half the settings does that mean it gives you a wider range of adjustments?

If you go to Help in LR4 and click on About Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.1... It lists the converter as Camera RAW 7.1, which is the same as CS6, so they should be identical in their effects.
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They might be identical in their effects but not in how one gets there.

I find LR 4 to be way too sensitive to get good results on really tricky pictures.

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Aug 23, 2012 04:07:11   #
rocar7 Loc: Alton, England
 
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
Most of us find that Elements does everything we want, especially if you also have LR4 which has the same RAW converter as CS.

I have Lightroom 4 but I can't find anything remotely similar to Photoshop CS6's Camera Raw.


In the Develop module, the right hand pane is the RAW converter (version 7.1). It looks different and is laid out differently, but it is exactly the same as the RAW converter in CS6.


Definitely not exactly the same. In fact, I'd say completely different. In fact, the sliders in the Develop module are extremely sensitive whereas the sliders in Adobe Camera Raw with Photoshop CS6 are not. I find myself using half the settings in Lightroom that I use in ACR CS6.
quote=rocar7 quote=russelray quote=rocar7 Most ... (show quote)


I'm not sure if you're saying it's better or worse. If you find the sliders more sensitive and you only use half the settings does that mean it gives you a wider range of adjustments?

If you go to Help in LR4 and click on About Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.1... It lists the converter as Camera RAW 7.1, which is the same as CS6, so they should be identical in their effects.
quote=russelray quote=rocar7 quote=russelray q... (show quote)

They might be identical in their effects but not in how one gets there.

I find LR 4 to be way too sensitive to get good results on really tricky pictures.
quote=rocar7 quote=russelray quote=rocar7 quot... (show quote)


Horses for courses, then.

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Aug 23, 2012 14:06:17   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
rocar7 wrote:
russelray wrote:
rocar7 wrote:
Most of us find that Elements does everything we want, especially if you also have LR4 which has the same RAW converter as CS.

I have Lightroom 4 but I can't find anything remotely similar to Photoshop CS6's Camera Raw.


In the Develop module, the right hand pane is the RAW converter (version 7.1). It looks different and is laid out differently, but it is exactly the same as the RAW converter in CS6.


I agree. In fact they use the same 'engine' (converter as you call it). LR does a few things that ACR can't like it has a history panel that you can go back in history to a point you liked better.

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