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Jun 25, 2019 17:03:21   #
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JohnSwanda wrote:
You might also try WB off sunlit green grass. That is the classic technique for digital IR color.

At 720nm and above. For 590, a white or gray card is the way to go.

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Jun 25, 2019 17:35:05   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
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At 720nm and above. For 590, a white or gray card is the way to go.


I use grass with a 665 and have always like the result. What kind of number do you get with white or grey? I get 2000 with ACR, which I think is the lowest it will go.

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Jun 25, 2019 17:51:18   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
You might also try WB off sunlit green grass. That is the classic technique for digital IR color.


Yes, I always use green glass in the Sunlight, now I may try using grey whatever it is for the WB. Hay! it's fun to try something else! Thank you!

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Jun 25, 2019 17:56:46   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
It's funny to call a 25A "fake IR". That was the filter most commonly used for IR film.


Please don't laugh at me, I don't know that filter was using for IR film, I hadn't do any IR during all those time of my shooting with film!

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Jun 25, 2019 18:12:40   #
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JohnSwanda wrote:
I use grass with a 665 and have always like the result. What kind of number do you get with white or grey? I get 2000 with ACR, which I think is the lowest it will go.

I uses calculators for numbers; my camera use is limited to the making of photographs. What I get with gray is illustrated above.

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Jun 25, 2019 18:40:41   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
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I uses calculators for numbers; my camera use is limited to the making of photographs. What I get with gray is illustrated above.


I just thought that if you were also getting the lowest WB the RAW software is capable of, it might not matter whether you used grey or green.

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Jun 25, 2019 18:46:45   #
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JohnSwanda wrote:
I just thought that if you were also getting the lowest WB the RAW software is capable of, it might not matter whether you used grey or green.

I set the white balance in-camera and use auto white balance in the GIMP, whether I'm shooting RAW or using jpegs.

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Jun 27, 2019 20:52:11   #
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Here's the fog beginning to rise on the far hillside (looks like cottage cheese, but it's trees) after a thunderstorm.

Fuji X-E2 converted to 590nm, 35mm f1.4 Fujinon
Fuji X-E2 converted to 590nm, 35mm f1.4 Fujinon...

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Jun 28, 2019 08:29:53   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
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Here's the fog beginning to rise on the far hillside (looks like cottage cheese, but it's trees) after a thunderstorm.


I like the 'cheese' look!!

Now I am using the 25A mostly, I like the color it produced, like this one. (Enhanced a little bit).


(Download)

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Jun 28, 2019 09:55:23   #
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Lovely picture. I especially like the water. Water in infrared is a little unpredictable, isn't it. You're certainly exercising the potential of that 25A! And as with my little picture above, you're finding the layers of vegetation and how IR manifests in the differing amounts of light.

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Jun 28, 2019 10:01:09   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
Yes, I do! It's on my camera all the time now. It's good to know this 25A actually was used as a IR filter in the B&W film era that some one in the post pointed out to me, thank him so much!

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Jun 28, 2019 10:42:11   #
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wingclui44 wrote:
Yes, I do! It's on my camera all the time now. It's good to know this 25A actually was used as a IR filter in the B&W film era that some one in the post pointed out to me, thank him so much!

In the IR film era there was a lot of experimentation -- we also used yellow filters and orange filters in addition to red, in both black-and-white and color IR film. Kodak didn't provide the information we would expect with film; instead, in every box there was a little folded sheet offering suggestions, starting points, and so on. It was an exciting time, though more deliberate and time-consuming than shooting is now. Then again, the delights of getting one hoped then were so much greater than today's instant gratification.

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Jun 28, 2019 11:10:40   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
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In the IR film era there was a lot of experimentation -- we also used yellow filters and orange filters in addition to red, in both black-and-white and color IR film. Kodak didn't provide the information we would expect with film; instead, in every box there was a little folded sheet offering suggestions, starting points, and so on. It was an exciting time, though more deliberate and time-consuming than shooting is now. Then again, the delights of getting one hoped then were so much greater than today's instant gratification.
In the IR film era there was a lot of experimentat... (show quote)


I still have the 80B (blue); G(XO) green; SY 48.2 yellow, plus the red 28A.
I just did one experiment using the 25A, I set the custom WB in the camera to take an image, then PP in the computer, but I only did it with R & BL channel swap with out using the auto WB, it came out quite different like this:


(Download)

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Jun 29, 2019 16:35:20   #
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wingclui44 wrote:
I still have the 80B (blue); G(XO) green; SY 48.2 yellow, plus the red 28A.
I just did one experiment using the 25A, I set the custom WB in the camera to take an image, then PP in the computer, but I only did it with R & BL channel swap with out using the auto WB, it came out quite different like this:

Mastering the post-process is critical to our having any control, though I suspect that many of us are just enjoying the surprises we're finding. Here's a picture I made a few minutes ago on the way to the mailbox. It's 590nm and was made with a 14mm Fujinon on a converted X-E2, 1/125 f5.6 ISO 200.



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Jun 29, 2019 18:03:14   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
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Mastering the post-process is critical to our having any control, though I suspect that many of us are just enjoying the surprises we're finding. Here's a picture I made a few minutes ago on the way to the mailbox. It's 590nm and was made with a 14mm Fujinon on a converted X-E2, 1/125 f5.6 ISO 200.


Yes, we just keep trying something new and enjoy it! Happy shooting!

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