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Apr 28, 2019 22:24:20   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Feiertag wrote:
That's a wonderful endorsement. Ross, give me a couple examples of what you have learned from him that made you well off?


Just in this in this thread alone, he indicated that he has used his motordrive to get the shot of the diver and it was the first shots that counted. This was not a football, soccer, or basketball game where fast frames have to be used to capture the action. I have seen many adept photographers, with some really expensive equipment, try and shoot the same type of shot that he did but with only one shot. Which example do you want to follow? The really experienced photographer that trys to do it with one shot? Or the gentleman with many awards that is showing one, "You have a motordrive: Use it to get the shot you need". The shot he shows us is a peak action shot. I thought of what the shots before and after, from his description, were probably like based off the picture he showed us. I am not particularly impressed by the diver's form in the picture, but it is what it is. But if one has any concept of human form and movement, it it easy to visualize the relative shape and form of before and after. Neither of those shots would have had the right elements that this shot has to make it successful. The more that I look at his shot, the better I like it.

There are sometimes that I can doubt myself in using the motordrive to capture a certain action and wonder if there was an easier way, whether I really need to sharpen my single shot skills more. And here he is going after the shot just like I do. Even if he didn't show me that, I still would be using my motordrive when many others are using a single shot. But it really makes one feel better that they figured it out, and shoot, just like how someone else shoots that is a lot better than one's self. The idea is to get the shot, and that is the kind of encourgement I feel I get from gwilliams6.

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Apr 29, 2019 08:03:47   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
wdross wrote:
Just in this in this thread alone, he indicated that he has used his motordrive to get the shot of the diver and it was the first shots that counted. This was not a football, soccer, or basketball game where fast frames have to be used to capture the action. I have seen many adept photographers, with some really expensive equipment, try and shoot the same type of shot that he did but with only one shot. Which example do you want to follow? The really experienced photographer that trys to do it with one shot? Or the gentleman with many awards that is showing one, "You have a motordrive: Use it to get the shot you need". The shot he shows us is a peak action shot. I thought of what the shots before and after, from his description, were probably like based off the picture he showed us. I am not particularly impressed by the diver's form in the picture, but it is what it is. But if one has any concept of human form and movement, it it easy to visualize the relative shape and form of before and after. Neither of those shots would have had the right elements that this shot has to make it successful. The more that I look at his shot, the better I like it.

There are sometimes that I can doubt myself in using the motordrive to capture a certain action and wonder if there was an easier way, whether I really need to sharpen my single shot skills more. And here he is going after the shot just like I do. Even if he didn't show me that, I still would be using my motordrive when many others are using a single shot. But it really makes one feel better that they figured it out, and shoot, just like how someone else shoots that is a lot better than one's self. The idea is to get the shot, and that is the kind of encourgement I feel I get from gwilliams6.
Just in this in this thread alone, he indicated th... (show quote)


Ross, burst shooting is done all the time. For an example, you would use it when a bird is landing or taking off. If the target is moving, like someone jumping into the lake, you would use it. I'm surprised you didn't know this. You should read Steve Perry's article regarding burst shooting or as you put it, motordrive. He explains it to a T, as to when and why you use it.

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Apr 29, 2019 13:10:15   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Feiertag wrote:
Ross, burst shooting is done all the time. For an example, you would use it when a bird is landing or taking off. If the target is moving, like someone jumping into the lake, you would use it. I'm surprised you didn't know this. You should read Steve Perry's article regarding burst shooting or as you put it, motordrive. He explains it to a T, as to when and why you use it.


I know that burst shooting is done for sports all the time. But in my travels, it has been rare to see another photographer shooting in burst mode other than me. In the film days when I didn't have a motordrive and tried to make every shot count, I was extremely good at anticipating the kids jumping off a dock catching them and the splash. Very little wasted film. Now that I have a camera that can shoot at 18 fps and 60 fps, I have trouble bring myself to use it although I do. Even at 18 fps, the editing becomes a pain in the you know what. If it is not a critical shoot or there will be more opportunities, I still like single shot. For me, it helps to develop my anticipation for the peak moment and its capture (which is even good for burst capture, even though it doesn't seem like it should). With Pro Capture, that would also seem to make less important, but it is not. So one of the things I gain from gwilliams6 is put up with the pain of editing and get the shot.

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May 4, 2019 10:11:03   #
j45 Loc: North Central CT
 
Bubbee wrote:
The great NG photographer, Joel Sartore, has posted many articles and videos describing his many experiences. One of the most important requirements of his Editor is that he photographs at prime times for the best light....early morning and afternoon's 'golden hour'.
I strongly recommend reading or watching his work....He is a born teacher....like so many of you!

Joel Sartore was on a recent episode of 60 minutes.

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May 5, 2019 09:23:59   #
oregon don
 
Dikdik wrote:
I remember reading an article 'way back' that described their equipment... second to none. They started with super equipment.

Dik


I also read that for even the shortest assignment the would send a case of film, this was a few years ago.


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May 5, 2019 09:46:20   #
oregon don
 
johnblenko wrote:
I have also heard, can’t verify, that they work their way down to 1 or 2 keepers for every 5,000 they shoot. First and foremost top notch photographers, then good glass, and a critical eye.


as for me , I feel if I get one or two keepers per 36 exp roll I am doing well.

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May 5, 2019 12:09:04   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
wdross wrote:
I know that burst shooting is done for sports all the time. But in my travels, it has been rare to see another photographer shooting in burst mode other than me. In the film days when I didn't have a motordrive and tried to make every shot count, I was extremely good at anticipating the kids jumping off a dock catching them and the splash. Very little wasted film. Now that I have a camera that can shoot at 18 fps and 60 fps, I have trouble bring myself to use it although I do. Even at 18 fps, the editing becomes a pain in the you know what. If it is not a critical shoot or there will be more opportunities, I still like single shot. For me, it helps to develop my anticipation for the peak moment and its capture (which is even good for burst capture, even though it doesn't seem like it should). With Pro Capture, that would also seem to make less important, but it is not. So one of the things I gain from gwilliams6 is put up with the pain of editing and get the shot.
I know that burst shooting is done for sports all ... (show quote)


Wow, you have a camera that shoots 18 and 60 fps? Don't lose it, you have a one of a kind camera.

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May 5, 2019 16:37:02   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Feiertag wrote:
Wow, you have a camera that shoots 18 and 60 fps? Don't lose it, you have a one of a kind camera.


Not one of a kind. Anyone can own one. Both the Olympus E-M1mkII and the Olympus E-M1X are able to shoot up to 18 fps with the shutter and up to 60 fps with the electronic shutter. All can be 20mp RAW shots. I believe it is up to 35 frames before the shutter release at this time (Pro Capture).

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