Samuel Adams
Apr 24, 2019 16:16:20 #
Ron Of TN
Loc: Middle Tenn
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"
--Samuel Adams
--Samuel Adams
Apr 24, 2019 16:25:38 #
Ron Of TN wrote:
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"
--Samuel Adams
--Samuel Adams
Wow.....................
Apr 24, 2019 16:59:32 #
Apr 24, 2019 17:16:17 #
Apr 24, 2019 17:51:34 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Not sure why Ron posted this, can't tell what he is trying to say.
Maybe this........................
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
― Benjamin Franklin
Apr 24, 2019 18:33:35 #
soba1 wrote:
Maybe this........................
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
― Benjamin Franklin
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
― Benjamin Franklin
I understand both statements, but the first one was more fitting to the time it was made, loyalty to the crown, not sure what his point was. Maybe I am just having a little brain fart.
Apr 24, 2019 21:41:23 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
I understand both statements, but the first one was more fitting to the time it was made, loyalty to the crown, not sure what his point was. Maybe I am just having a little brain fart.
No I can see your point. But if I look at it from a Biblical perspective. There is a whole different meaning
Apr 24, 2019 22:10:09 #
soba1 wrote:
No I can see your point. But if I look at it from a Biblical perspective. There is a whole different meaning
My issue is that I don't despise wealth, I do despise ill begotten wealth but I don't have an issue with wealth itself, the Adam's statement addresses those in positions of power and wealth that was given to them by the crown and only through the continued support of the crown can they maintain their elevated position in society, they see the revolutionaries as a threat to that power and wealth. Not sure that we are in the same situation today and I don't know if the OP is complaining about wealth and income distribution in today's society, or if he is complaining about allegiance to the establishment pols in DC.
Apr 24, 2019 22:37:01 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
My issue is that I don't despise wealth, I do desp... (show quote)
This is how I understand it.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, -- Worship money over freedom --
the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, -- prefer to be a s***e then a free person --
go from us in peace. -- be on your own and don't look to us for help --
We ask not your counsels or arms. -- we will not ask anything of you --
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. -- show respect for your master --
May your chains sit lightly upon you, -- may your chains not be a burden --
and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" -- you are not considered one of us --
Apr 24, 2019 23:29:50 #
Apr 24, 2019 23:29:54 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
My issue is that I don't despise wealth, I do desp... (show quote)
I see it as acquiring wealth by succumbing to the rule of the crown; subsurviance
Apr 24, 2019 23:30:33 #
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Apr 24, 2019 23:44:26 #
BigBear wrote:
Thank you Sir !!
Sam and I have a family connection.
Sam and I have a family connection.
You’re quite welcome sir
Care to share
Apr 24, 2019 23:53:53 #
soba1 wrote:
You’re quite welcome sir
Care to share
Care to share
My cousin traced our family tree back to Sam and John Adams who's predecessors came over on the Mayflower.
I'm still a nobody, but with history.
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