Vietnam Vet

Yeah, but it wasn't biblical for men to show their ankles in public, but you probably know unbiblical men who wear shorts and sandals and who attend church right? Maybe even your pastor too?

KTJohnson Loc: Northern Michigan

1 Timothy 3:2 "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife ..." That word "bishop" refers to overseer/elder/pastor.

Those are just two of the requirements, God's requirements, not mine.

It's kind of hard for a woman to be the husband of one wife. Of course, in our current, sinful, perverted culture, most folks pay no attention to God's Word or His instructions anymore.

Vietnam Vet

I suppose since we have women bishops now, if Paul were writing about them today he would write that "A bishop must be blameless then, the wife of one husband."

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

If that’s your response the that’s pretty telling about your woefully bad understanding of scripture

Vietnam Vet

And I guess your bad understanding of what the bible says about judging others

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

I hope you all realize that the primary protestant Bible that most folks adhere to is the King James version, so-called because its translation was commissioned by King James of England. James had many sections of the Bible written and re-written until they served his wishes. Given that, I find it pretty hard to see the Bible as anything other than a guideline for good, benevolent behavior. Then of course, there’s the Catholic Bible which is different, and the newer translations that sometimes differ from the KJ version, etc. Given those facts, I find it hard to assume that any version or interpretation is any more correct than anyone else’s.

1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA

When referring to a person use "who". "That" refers to groups, objects, animals.

KTJohnson Loc: Northern Michigan

You're probably referring to Matthew 7:1 where it says, "Do not judge lest you be judged".

This passage has erroneously been used to suggest that believers should never evaluate or criticize anyone for anything. Today, people hate absolutes, especially theological and moral absolutes, and such simplistic interpretation provides a convenient escape from confrontation. People in modern society, including many professing Christians, tend to resist dogmatism and strong convictions about right and wrong. Folks prefer to speak of an all-inclusive love, compromise, ecumenism, and unity.

This passage nor any other part of Scripture does not teach that we are never to evaluate, criticize, or condemn the actions or teachings of another person.

If this part of the greatest sermon by our Lord teaches anything, it teaches His followers to be discerning and perceptive in what they believe and in what they do. They must make every effort to judge between truth and falsehood, between the internal and the external, between reality and sham, between true righteousness and false righteousness, in short, between God's ways and all other ways.

In the context of this sermon, what Jesus here forbids is self-righteous, officious, hasty, unmerciful, prejudiced, and unwarranted condemnation based on human standards and human understanding.

In particular, that's what the Pharisees were doing.


If you want to get a better understanding of this whole "judgment thing", maybe you could get your Pastor/wife to teach and preach on it. However, to get it right it would require actual study of God's Word.

Vietnam Vet

I think you have a lot of head knowledge that determines how you relate to God and live out your religious life. My wife has head knowledge too. A BA in Bible, a BA in Business Administration, a Master of Divinity degree, and will begin working on a Doctorate in Worship later this year. But what motivates her is her intimate relationship with God. It's a matter of the heart with her.

Me get my wife to do something? Quit being sexist. She has the Holy Spirit who leads her in ministry.

LoStrunzo

Thank you for your service.

Vietnam Vet

Thank You

amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN

Jesus said, "Love one another." That is the Law. All else is MAN made.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

No he wouldn't. We shouldn't have women bishops either.

You are illustrating one thing; that you don't have a clue on what proper biblical exegesis actually is.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

What he has is a good understanding of what God has said on the subject. He's 100% right about it...he called you out on your misuse of scripture. He also knows that theology IS the study of God and God has given us His word to know about Him so naturally we are supposed to study and know the word inside and out. That's not a bad thing at all...though you try and make it seem so to fit your agenda.



Cut it out with the false dichotomy. That's an old one that doesn't work. To imply that this commenter doesn't have love for folks or love for God because he understands scripture correctly and you don't is a cop out. It's bunk...quit doing it. It's right out of the heretics play book.



No she doesn't.

PS: Getting your wife to do something isn't sexist, it's normal. God set up the household hierarchy, the husband is the head of the household because Jesus is the head of the church. The picture of the husband and wife team mirror Jesus and the church. (That's in the bible by the way).

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Bull crap.

Jesus said a lot of things, He's the author of the bible.

PS: You cannot possibly know what's man made and what's not...let's not have another "Logic 101/Philosophy 101" course here on the 'hog...I give them weekly.