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Apr 20, 2019 07:48:41   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
Hello
I know that the rule of thumb is to turn off vibration control when using a tripod.

Does this apply to in lens VR, in body VR, or both?
With my Z6 I realized that I haven't been turning VR off.
Probably because there is no switch on the lens.

Thanks
Jim

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Apr 20, 2019 07:58:33   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Hello
I know that the rule of thumb is to turn off vibration control when using a tripod.

Does this apply to in lens VR, in body VR, or both?
With my Z6 I realized that I haven't been turning VR off.
Probably because there is no switch on the lens.

Thanks
Jim

See your user’s manual.

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Apr 20, 2019 08:00:13   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Hello
I know that the rule of thumb is to turn off vibration control when using a tripod.

Does this apply to in lens VR, in body VR, or both?
With my Z6 I realized that I haven't been turning VR off.
Probably because there is no switch on the lens.

Thanks
Jim


I think you turn VR off in the camera while your using a tripod. I use a Canon camera and turn off IS while using a tripod.

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Apr 20, 2019 08:03:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Hello
I know that the rule of thumb is to turn off vibration control when using a tripod.

Thanks
Jim


The rule of thumb is historically correct, and as technology progresses we just can't let it go.

The answer is different for different cameras and lenses. The advice, already given, to read the manuals is the best you will get.

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Apr 21, 2019 07:13:01   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Hello
I know that the rule of thumb is to turn off vibration control when using a tripod.

Does this apply to in lens VR, in body VR, or both?
With my Z6 I realized that I haven't been turning VR off.
Probably because there is no switch on the lens.

Thanks
Jim


try it both ways, see what works best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jequQJ8_7A&list=PLOD1rrjm5sQDne9AacaP0weB4mwrclaE8&index=5&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN2Fv53EQu4

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Apr 21, 2019 08:12:19   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Hello
I know that the rule of thumb is to turn off vibration control when using a tripod.

Does this apply to in lens VR, in body VR, or both?
With my Z6 I realized that I haven't been turning VR off.
Probably because there is no switch on the lens.

Thanks
Jim


If you're on a steady tripod with remote release turn OFF all VR and IBIS lens and body - no need for VR/IBIS if you're on a tripod and/or handheld with fast enough shutter (1/FL+). The one exception is if you are forced to use VR/IBIS as with some AF-P lenses on certain older models (e.g., the 10-20mm AF-P lens with a D7200...no choice there).

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Apr 21, 2019 09:34:22   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
It is recommended to turn VR off whether in camera or lens when using a tripod. I have accidentally forgotten to do so and I have not experienced any issues.
Turn it off as recommended.

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Apr 21, 2019 10:58:26   #
nikondoug
 
I turn the VR off when camera and lens are mounted on a tripod. Except when it is very windy, VR on in this condition is a blessing.

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Apr 21, 2019 11:22:58   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Without knowing what photographic scenario you are referring to it would be foolish to provide a yes/no/maybe answer.

Thus far only one poster nail this... thank you tcthome
"...try it both ways, see what works best..."

This is indeed a valid inference... and likely the only solution of merit...
please reflect on the following... it is the beacon of healthcare...

Evidence-based practice is a clinical decision-making process in which licensed clinicians use theory-derived, research-based knowledge to inform their decisions about care delivery.

Unlike "naturopathic medicine" i.e. witchcraft... only those with extensive training who have passed state licensing boards are allowed to practice medicine... it is based on research not questionable unreliable hearsay...

Even if Nikon and the lens vendor has invested in extensive research on your aforementioned Hamltnblue you still need to validate... as Ronny said "trust but verify..."

All the best on your journey Hamltnblue

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Apr 21, 2019 12:25:00   #
Caldian Loc: Crystal Lake, Michigan & traveling
 
What????

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Apr 21, 2019 12:41:52   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Hello
I know that the rule of thumb is to turn off vibration control when using a tripod.

Does this apply to in lens VR, in body VR, or both?
With my Z6 I realized that I haven't been turning VR off.
Probably because there is no switch on the lens.

Thanks
Jim


This is found on page 112 on your owners manual, there in the highlighted area is a section call Vibration Reduction. I tells you there about using your camera with Vibration Reduction on a tripod. It is about two paragraphs long and should take you about 2 minutes to read it.
After you read it, you should know what to do. If you don't know what to do after reading the section highlighted Vibration reduction, you can then come back to us.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.

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Apr 21, 2019 12:48:05   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
billnikon wrote:
This is found on page 112 on your owners manual, there in the highlighted area is a section call Vibration Reduction. I tells you there about using your camera with Vibration Reduction on a tripod. It is about two paragraphs long and should take you about 2 minutes to read it.
After you read it, you should know what to do. If you don't know what to do after reading the section highlighted Vibration reduction, you can then come back to us.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.


Hey Bill, for those of us that don't have a Z6 what do the two paragraphs say?

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Apr 21, 2019 12:53:52   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
"On a tripod" is too simplistic.

More accurate would be to say "In the absence of any movement at all for the system to correct" SOME lenses' image stabilization system must be turned off. The primary reason for this is that SOME stabilization systems go into a sort of a feedback loop where they actually create movement and cause shake blur in images. If you forget to turn it off, you'll see rapid jumping movements in the viewfinder and can then turn off the stabilization. (Note: don't confuse the rapid movements with a slower "image drift" movement that's common with optical stabilization and does no harm to images, but this too may be a problem if shooting video or if trying to frame a still shot very precisely). This is not common with newer lenses. Of the 35 or 45 different Image Stabilized (IS) lenses that Canon has produced over the years, only five lenses were known to do this... and of those, only one is still in production. Canon was producing stabilized lenses eight or ten years before anyone else, so other manufacturers' lenses probably have been designed to avoid this problem. I can't say for certain though, because I use Canon gear and have limited hands-on experience with other in-lens optical stabilization systems (and all of them are bound to be a bit different, since each is patented by their manufacturer).

Another reason for turning off stabilization when it's not needed seems to be unique to Nikon VR. Some users of it feel it slows auto focus slightly (and probably frame rate, too). There seems to be some evidence supporting this. So some Nikon users will turn VR off when it's not particularly necessary, such as when using a tripod to support the lens and a fast enough shutter speed that camera shake won't be an issue. (With Canon IS lenses, I feel the opposite is true... That IS helps autofocus perform slightly better and a wee bit faster. But this just based on using a number of different IS lenses for close to 20 years now... Not on any sort of scientific testing.) I cannot say how a Sigma OS lens or a Tamron VC lens might perform on a Nikon or any other camera. Just not enough experience with them (none using them on Nikon).

A third reason to turn off stabilization when on a tripod is because it draws some power from the camera's battery(ies). In fact, all the Canon manuals tell you to "turn IS off when using a tripod" primarily for this reason. But, frankly, I don't think it draws very much power. I often shoot events with two cameras and sometimes I'll have an IS lens on one and a non-IS lens on the other. I get virtually the same number of shots with both cameras, before I need to change batteries. This was confirmed to me in a conversation with Canon USA's tech guru Chuck Westfall some years ago... that the primary reason Canon recommended turning IS off was to save a little battery power. He recommended leaving IS on if at all possible... Because it can even be effective counter-acting internal camera vibrations such as "mirror slap" and "shutter shake" (which aren't a problem with a mirrorless camera, of course.... but mirrorless cameras get somewhat fewer shots per charge with than DSLRs, so that might be a concern).

It also depends upon HOW you are using the lens "on a tripod".... If you are using a "loose" head or gimbal to track moving subjects, there's plenty of work for the image stabilization to do. The same if using the camera and lens on a monopod.

But if you are using a fast shutter speed anyway, perhaps to freeze subject movement (which no stabilization system can help with), maybe you can turn off stabilization.

Personally, I virtually never turn off IS on my Canon lenses. I can't really remember the last time I did so. In fact, I have the switch taped over on some of my lenses, to keep me from accidentally switching it off.

I have or had several copies of two of Canon lens models that "require" you turn IS off "on a tripod" to avoid the feedback problem... but I never used either lens on a tripod. They are much more suited to hand held use... one of them I use occasionally on a monopod (when I definitely don't turn off IS).

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Apr 21, 2019 13:16:54   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Hey Bill, for those of us that don't have a Z6 what do the two paragraphs say?


In YOUR owner's manual, in the back is a thing called an index (which is alphabetical by the way). Look up VR. Every camera is different as technology is rapidly changing and each manufacture makes different claims.
But, generally speaking, VR systems generally looks for movement in the lenses while trying to focus, if the camera is on a tripod and the camera is in VR, it is looking for movement (and their is none because your on a tripod) so some VR systems will try to move the lenses to adjust because that's what it does, and this movement MAY cause blurry or out of focus shots. BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFIC CAMERA MODEL AND LENS.

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Apr 21, 2019 13:55:21   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I only have lens VR, so I know that the rule to turn off the VR for the lens is real. One day I forgot to turn off the VR on my lens and wasted a whole day of shooting a beautiful New England scenic area because the photos all turned out blurry

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