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Apr 19, 2019 05:16:34   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
By using a save as feature you are intervening with the software to save the file with another name. In other words you are using manual intervention as a work around to the inherent destructiveness of the software. Non-destructive software needs no intervention and no mistakes or lapses of judgement will make the software destructive since most non-destructive software do not have a Save or Save As feature to start with.

So the cool thing with programs like Photoshop is that I GET TO CHOOSE whether or not I want a new copy or I want all my edits to be on the original. Considering that I have an in-house backup of all my computers and an off-site backup as well, do I really the software making my choices for me as to how many copies of something I have. I think I'll just make my own choices since I have that option. I just love it when I get to make decisions for myself.

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Apr 19, 2019 07:44:56   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
russelray wrote:
That, though, would be presuming that Lightroom is all one ever used. For those of us who grew up on computers in the '60s and '70s in high school, '70s in college, and then Apple & PC's beginning in 1978, there is much more to the computer world than Lightroom.


There are lots of folks that are absolutely clueless when it comes to their computers and expect everything to be completely intuitive. We are not that close to being there yet and that is why, to quote Yoda, "they are made to suffer" I was an IT professorial from the late '70s until I retired completely in 2012. I think anyone who has the amount of computer experience that you suggest shouldn't be struggling with Lightroom.

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Apr 19, 2019 07:56:09   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
russelray wrote:
I think the #1 problem with Lightroom is that it is prone to losing files, especially if one works in programs outside of Lightroom, like Photoshop, Word, Photo-Paint, Paintshop Pro, etc.


Don't forget finder and file explorer

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Apr 19, 2019 10:40:30   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
There are lots of folks that are absolutely clueless when it comes to their computers and expect everything to be completely intuitive. We are not that close to being there yet and that is why, to quote Yoda, "they are made to suffer" I was an IT professorial from the late '70s until I retired completely in 2012. I think anyone who has the amount of computer experience that you suggest shouldn't be struggling with Lightroom.

Completely agree, but with some people the learning curve is steeper because computers, or software, are not their forte. I started in IT the same time you did but I have not yet retired. I started my own company in 2001; I'm just too hyper to completely retire even though I tried in 1987, 1993, and 2003.

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Apr 20, 2019 10:40:08   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
patman1 wrote:
I agree with you 100%, if you learn the basic fundamentals in working with PS you will never destroy an original.
NO. 1 all my photos are shot as Raw images
NO. 2 all photos are worked on copies only
No. 3 all work is done on layers
No. 4 Final copies are Save As, renamed and placed in its final location
Following these procedures as spelled out in the Adobe instructions as per the use of PS are quite clear. So my suggestion is to sit down with a manual and learn proper proceedures.

I am an expert in PS, been using it since its inception, PS 1, I believe it was about 1975. I also worked for for one of the largest Advertising Agencies in the world, DDB WORLDWIDE and these procedures were adhered too exclusively. LR was not used at all, it's really not meant for Advertising, more for Weddings were treatments can be made globally across many images.
I agree with you 100%, if you learn the basic fund... (show quote)


I'm certainly no expert with Ps but I have been using Ps CS5 and CS6 for a few years. But I was taught by an expert, Aaron Weiss. He is an graphic artist / graphic designer as well as a Ps teacher!

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