Recommendations for Multi E-TTL setup
Apr 15, 2019 12:40:43 #
Other than the too-expensive Canon gear, can anyone recommend speedlite packages that allow wireless triggering of 2 or more speedlites? I want capabilities such as setting ratio of lights, high-speed sync, zoom, etc. My new Canon EOS R does not have the built-in flash. Previously, with my Canon 70DI was using the built-in flash to trigger a Neewer NW-985C E-TTL. I was very happy with that capability, and I want to do the same with the EOS R.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Apr 15, 2019 12:53:49 #
mdougc wrote:
Other than the too-expensive Canon gear, can anyone recommend speedlite packages that allow wireless triggering of 2 or more speedlites? I want capabilities such as setting ratio of lights, high-speed sync, zoom, etc. My new Canon EOS R does not have the built-in flash. Previously, with my Canon 70DI was using the built-in flash to trigger a Neewer NW-985C E-TTL. I was very happy with that capability, and I want to do the same with the EOS R.
Thank you.
Thank you.
If I didn't already have some Canon Speedlites, I'd buy 2 or 3 of these:
https://www.adorama.com/orlfsmrt600c.html?origterm=speedlite+for+canon&searchredirect=true
For as little as I use a flash, I think these would fit the bill fine at about 1/3rd the cost of the Canon brand of the 600RT. It's almost identical to the Canon brand except that I'm sure it's not as sturdy. But for as little as I'd use them, I think they would be fine. I've heard nothing but good things about them.
Apr 15, 2019 13:03:17 #
Apr 15, 2019 15:07:25 #
rwilson1942 wrote:
Search Amazon for Godex flash for Canon.
It's spelled Godox and it's great!
B&H carries that line.
Adorama's Flashpoint is the same stuff.
Apr 15, 2019 17:26:38 #
mdougc wrote:
Other than the too-expensive Canon gear, can anyone recommend speedlite packages that allow wireless triggering of 2 or more speedlites? I want capabilities such as setting ratio of lights, high-speed sync, zoom, etc. My new Canon EOS R does not have the built-in flash. Previously, with my Canon 70DI was using the built-in flash to trigger a Neewer NW-985C E-TTL. I was very happy with that capability, and I want to do the same with the EOS R.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have several Canon 600 RT's as well as several 580's, but I added several Yungnuos to them, and they do work nicely together, or by themselves! The only issue I have with them, is, they just don't last long! I'm really interested in the new ProFoto speedlights and will most likely add a few of them to my bag as well, they are solidly build and last!
Apr 15, 2019 20:05:41 #
I'm with Goofy on this one. The one real advantage the Godox has other than typically being more powerful than OEM, is the system can be used on multiple camera manufacturers with a simple inexpensive transmitter change. I'd also endorse using Adorama's Flashpoint brand of Godox for the warranty convenience.
Apr 15, 2019 20:20:15 #
Haydon wrote:
I'm with Goofy on this one. The one real advantage the Godox has other than typically being more powerful than OEM, is the system can be used on multiple camera manufacturers with a simple inexpensive transmitter change. I'd also endorse using Adorama's Flashpoint brand of Godox for the warranty convenience.
The “speedlight” designs are camera brand specific, but the others, like the AD-200, 400 and 600, work with any brand they make a transmitter for.
And, yes, I got mine through Adorama for the warranty, but B&H is a great source.
Too many local brick and moartar camera stores have gone away.
We lost two here in Kansas City.
Buying from Amazon is convenient, but I’d rather purchase from a real camera store, even if on-line, than Amazon. Who will answer your item specific questions if you have one?
Apr 15, 2019 22:30:42 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The “speedlight” designs are camera brand specific... (show quote)
At Christmas, Adorama had their AD600Pro package on sale. The Flashpoint Godox rebrand came with a nice case whereas other rebrands do not. I totally agree with your analogy about Amazon. I do purchase from Amazon but these super giants consume the little guy. We need competition and a variety of alternatives or we end up with a controlling monopoly.
FTR I have a mix of Canon speedlights, Buff Einsteins and I am now working on Godox for their more powerful high speed sync options. Each tool has their own place.
Apr 16, 2019 07:19:35 #
Apr 16, 2019 07:30:33 #
Amazon is quickly moving toward providing one day shipping. Will be rolled out before long. That will put added pressure to compete on everyone else still remaining...
Haydon wrote:
At Christmas, Adorama had their AD600Pro package o... (show quote)
Apr 16, 2019 07:38:42 #
I have 4 speedlights, as well as several studio strobes. Godox trigger and receivers are wonderful.
--Bob
--Bob
mdougc wrote:
Other than the too-expensive Canon gear, can anyone recommend speedlite packages that allow wireless triggering of 2 or more speedlites? I want capabilities such as setting ratio of lights, high-speed sync, zoom, etc. My new Canon EOS R does not have the built-in flash. Previously, with my Canon 70DI was using the built-in flash to trigger a Neewer NW-985C E-TTL. I was very happy with that capability, and I want to do the same with the EOS R.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Apr 16, 2019 09:54:11 #
Thank you everybody! Godox looks great. Now, can anyone point to a website that talks about setup for these flash units? I'm not talking about "how to light". Generally, I have a good feel for lighting effects. I want to know about camera/flash parameters for setting up , say, a master and 2 slaves with a given ratio, speed, and curtain so the camera can decide flash power required. The jargon about channels and groups, etc is confusing. Is the Godox manual written in "Chinglish" like Neewer?
Example: for Godox, what is the difference between the 800 and 600 series units? Why do I want the separate transmitter instead of just using one flash as a master to trigger a slave unit with a given lighting ratio?
Example: for Godox, what is the difference between the 800 and 600 series units? Why do I want the separate transmitter instead of just using one flash as a master to trigger a slave unit with a given lighting ratio?
Apr 16, 2019 10:13:01 #
I have and use Canon Speedlites and their camera top controller. That said even though you don't want to use their gear I would suggest that you take a look at the Speedlite 600RT II manual. I think you will gain some understanding from their well written manuals. There are also YouTube videos by people like Joe Brady, Mark Wallace and others that get into the portrait lighting subject. There is a wealth of information out there. You just have to do some looking and study.
mdougc wrote:
Thank you everybody! Godox looks great. Now, can ... (show quote)
Apr 16, 2019 10:45:16 #
rmalarz wrote:
I have 4 speedlights, as well as several studio strobes. Godox trigger and receivers are wonderful.
--Bob
--Bob
I like your quotes.
Is there a document that compares Godox products?
What is the difference between the 800 and 600 series flash units?
Why do I want the separate transmitter instead of just using one flash as an on-shoe master to trigger a slave unit with a given lighting ratio?
Apr 16, 2019 11:11:56 #
mdougc wrote:
I like your quotes.
Is there a document that compares Godox products?
What is the difference between the 800 and 600 series flash units?
Why do I want the separate transmitter instead of just using one flash as an on-shoe master to trigger a slave unit with a given lighting ratio?
Is there a document that compares Godox products?
What is the difference between the 800 and 600 series flash units?
Why do I want the separate transmitter instead of just using one flash as an on-shoe master to trigger a slave unit with a given lighting ratio?
Generally most multilight setups would not have a light positioned where the on camera flash would be. Also once the lighting is setup you may want to move around the model with the camera to get different angles and looks. So, if you use an on camera Speedlites to trigger your lights you are limiting yourself and essentially taking one speed light out of the equation.
It is better to have radio communication with your lights both for triggering and adjustment of settings. Especially if you end up using them inside modifiers like softboxes. Radio is just much better than IR and much easier to work with.
A handheld meter is useful for setting ratios in such situations even though the Speedlites are capable of doing ratios I would trust my meter more.
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