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Apr 16, 2019 16:53:38   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
This is America. We're supposed to be the Good Guys. As in, before the Bushes.
Gitmo shouldn't exist, and is a national disgrace.
The trials of these people should have been made public- what did we have to hide?
Assange, Artem Vaulin, and Kim Dotcom have been arrested and are trying to avoid extradition.
Have you heard any statements from them? Any news stories? Anything?

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Apr 16, 2019 17:19:27   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Harry0 wrote:
This is America. We're supposed to be the Good Guys. As in, before the Bushes.
Gitmo shouldn't exist, and is a national disgrace.
The trials of these people should have been made public- what did we have to hide?
Assange, Artem Vaulin, and Kim Dotcom have been arrested and are trying to avoid extradition.
Have you heard any statements from them? Any news stories? Anything?

What World are you living in? You want to set terrorists free from Gitmo? Are you a terrorist, too?
And have you ever seen a single newscast or news article from the last nine years? Julian Assange is a household name due to the news coverage. He has made public statements coming out the wazoo.

Most of the Liberals I have seen on this site try to spin things differently than the Conservatives do, and they may argue, or even call names, but you just make stuff up out of thin air. You don't even make stuff up that other Liberals would like to see or agree with. You just make up silly stuff.

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Apr 16, 2019 17:29:00   #
cwp3420
 
Harry0 wrote:
THAT is the point. He, as a journalist, is being silenced.
Noriega, Hussein, El Chapo, etc get kept in solitary and incommunicado 'til death.
Or like Kashoggi: dismembered, disappeared, and conversation discouraged.
Various people ran file sharing sites, ITV sites, etc in Europe were kidnapped by US agents (like the UK soldiers and Assange), brought to the US ... and silence. NObody mentions them again.


Good.

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Apr 16, 2019 18:05:09   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Harry0 wrote:
This is America. We're supposed to be the Good Guys. As in, before the Bushes.
Gitmo shouldn't exist, and is a national disgrace.
The trials of these people should have been made public- what did we have to hide?
Assange, Artem Vaulin, and Kim Dotcom have been arrested and are trying to avoid extradition.
Have you heard any statements from them? Any news stories? Anything?


Read a book.

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Apr 16, 2019 20:58:35   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveR wrote:
All he had to do was clean the litter box and pick up his tidy whities. Silly but it's the t***h.


Seems true, but I missed your point.

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Apr 16, 2019 20:59:43   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
BigBear wrote:
Trump is the first since Reagan who is actually interested in enforcing the laws.
Assange is a lesser piece that can lead to the take down of the queen Manning who is the real t*****r in this story.


Do you mean "I love Wiki Leaks" Trump?

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Apr 17, 2019 11:29:43   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Steven Seward wrote:
What World are you living in? You want to set terrorists free from Gitmo? Are you a terrorist, too?
And have you ever seen a single newscast or news article from the last nine years? Julian Assange is a household name due to the news coverage. He has made public statements coming out the wazoo.

Most of the Liberals I have seen on this site try to spin things differently than the Conservatives do, and they may argue, or even call names, but you just make stuff up out of thin air. You don't even make stuff up that other Liberals would like to see or agree with. You just make up silly stuff.
What World are you living in? You want to set ter... (show quote)


Yet another kneejerk suckbutt response by a #meetoo minion wannabe.
i am edumacated, so I am not a Liberal. I have a soul, so I'm not a Republican, either.

*I* did not say to set them free. I'm asking for a UN Nuremburg type trial.
Are they that bad? Are they guilty? Then convict them, and grind them up for pig food.
Gitmo is a place where our government can do what it's not allowed to do.
All we learned from all the tortures is updated our Auschwitz data.
But that's OK. Our people were just following orders. It's policy.
As long as we can call them a name, we don't need to see them as people.
It's only procedure. Wash your hands, turn your head. NHI.

There's a lot of other people talking about a lot of other people. What did Assange say, lately?
How about Artem Vaulin? Have you heard what he had to say? Or the Noriega interviews?
No problem. Freedom from choice. It's for your own good.

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Apr 17, 2019 12:03:58   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Harry0 wrote:
THAT is the point. He, as a journalist, is being silenced.
Noriega, Hussein, El Chapo, etc get kept in solitary and incommunicado 'til death.
Or like Kashoggi: dismembered, disappeared, and conversation discouraged.
Various people ran file sharing sites, ITV sites, etc in Europe were kidnapped by US agents (like the UK soldiers and Assange), brought to the US ... and silence. NObody mentions them again.


He is no journalist. He stole high level secrets and made them public and can be considered a terrorist by proxy.
As far as the rest of the characters that you mentioned, maybe you would like to live with them and write home with their stories. Then they wouldn't be forgotten 'eh.

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Apr 17, 2019 12:07:37   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Harry0 wrote:
THAT is the point. He, as a journalist, is being silenced.
Noriega, Hussein, El Chapo, etc get kept in solitary and incommunicado 'til death.
Or like Kashoggi: dismembered, disappeared, and conversation discouraged.
Various people ran file sharing sites, ITV sites, etc in Europe were kidnapped by US agents (like the UK soldiers and Assange), brought to the US ... and silence. NObody mentions them again.


Harry, if all he is, is a journalist then I am with you, just like the Post and the NYT in the pentagon papers, but if he was actively involved in hacking then that is beyond journalism.

I still have questions about Seth Rich, hopefully Assange's extradition can help to clear those up.

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Apr 17, 2019 12:45:44   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Harry0 wrote:
Yet another kneejerk suckbutt response by a #meetoo minion wannabe.
i am edumacated, so I am not a Liberal. I have a soul, so I'm not a Republican, either.

*I* did not say to set them free. I'm asking for a UN Nuremburg type trial.
Are they that bad? Are they guilty? Then convict them, and grind them up for pig food.
Gitmo is a place where our government can do what it's not allowed to do.
All we learned from all the tortures is updated our Auschwitz data.
But that's OK. Our people were just following orders. It's policy.
As long as we can call them a name, we don't need to see them as people.
It's only procedure. Wash your hands, turn your head. NHI.

There's a lot of other people talking about a lot of other people. What did Assange say, lately?
How about Artem Vaulin? Have you heard what he had to say? Or the Noriega interviews?
No problem. Freedom from choice. It's for your own good.
Yet another kneejerk suckbutt response by a #meeto... (show quote)


You know nothing about GITMO other than what the lying liars have spoon fed you.

Comparing it with Auschwitz requires an incredible amount of factual ignorance.

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Apr 18, 2019 13:18:22   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
LWW wrote:
You know nothing about GITMO other than what the lying liars have spoon fed you..

You mean all those American soldiers and guards? And their leaders' justification testimony?
I meant Auschwitz as a thought process. We still shoot people for being black, beat people for being gay, damage churches for being Jewish, punish women for being D-less, and DAMMIT there's still Indians living on our land!

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Apr 18, 2019 13:30:47   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Harry0 wrote:
You mean all those American soldiers and guards? And their leaders' justification testimony?
I meant Auschwitz as a thought process. We still shoot people for being black, beat people for being gay, damage churches for being Jewish, punish women for being D-less, and DAMMIT there's still Indians living on our land!


You should contact your local Crisis Services ASAP, you sound like you're right on the edge of a melt down.

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Apr 18, 2019 13:42:44   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Harry0 wrote:
You mean all those American soldiers and guards? And their leaders' justification testimony?
I meant Auschwitz as a thought process. We still shoot people for being black, beat people for being gay, damage churches for being Jewish, punish women for being D-less, and DAMMIT there's still Indians living on our land!


You commit all of those crimes, then you have the audacity to blame it on conservatives ...
Shame on you all !!!
And now you want to go after my Native family ... On YOUR land ???

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Apr 18, 2019 13:50:31   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
BigBear wrote:
I'm sure Trump put enough latent heat on them to put him out.


Do you think Trump convinced him to smear his excrement on the embassy walls? That would surprise me. It certainly could be true, but it seems unlikely.

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Apr 18, 2019 13:53:45   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
BigBear wrote:
You commit all of those crimes, then you have the audacity to blame it on conservatives ...
Shame on you all !!!
And now you want to go after my Native family ... On YOUR land ???


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