avraham Loc: Reno, Nevada

Has anyone heard when NIK will be incorporated into DxO PhotoLab 2?

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

I would not hold my breath on that one. As an active member of DXO's user forum I wouldn't expect to see any significant integration for a year or two, if ever.

avraham Loc: Reno, Nevada

Any idea why?

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

If you are a regular user of DXO products and are really interested in their road map,, you should be a member of their user forum. DXO has been struggling to add timely new features, updates to existing features, and bug fixes in Photolab for the last year. Things are moving along, but they're moving along slowly.

They have a large backlog of things to fix and add to Photolab that are unrelated to Nik. In addition DXO also has an integrated package called Filmpack 5 which with albeit more work allows you to accomplish many of the things that the Nik collection does. The integration of all the Nik functionality directly into Photolab along side of the current Filmpack functionality will be a daunting effort. Given their small development team size and track record for implementing new features, it is very unlikely it will happen anytime soon.

Any significant updates to the Nik Collection will likely be for those usiing it with other applications like Lightroom, Photoshop, Affinity photo, etc. They need to do that to encourage more users to purchase it over their current free version. Integration directly into Photolab will likely come much much later, if at all

avraham Loc: Reno, Nevada

Thanks very much for your response.
I have joined the DxO forum since your 1st response.

TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA

Aren't PhotoLab2's Control Points and Local Adjustments from NIK?

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Yes, although they are implemented somewhat differently in Photolab, these features we're derived from similar tools in the Nik Collection.

HardwareGuy

I would somewhat disagree that DxO is somehow behind the curve. On the other hand, they have pioneered establishing "profiles" for specific cameras and lenses that are calculated into the imaging results. This is a really great feature. These kinds of features are now appearing in LR and ACDSee.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Who said they were "behind the curve". If you were referring to me, what I indicated was they are very slow to introduce new functionality and promised updates to existing functionality. This is not an opinion, it is just a simple fact. We, on the user forums, have had ongoing discussions with DXO staff members about this. Based on these conversations, I am hopeful that some of the backlog will be addressed this year.

With regards to Photolab's capabilities, many of their tools are among the best out there in any software package. PRIME noise reduction is about as good as it gets. High ISO noise simply disappears. I get superior results using Photolab, and in much less time than with any other software I've used. I use PhotoLab Elite 2.2.2 everyday along with the integrated versions of FilmPack 5 Elite and Viewpoint, and with the DXO version of the Nik Collection.

avraham Loc: Reno, Nevada

I am not an expert on DxO yet but I am excited about the results I am getting with the processing. I am converting RAW images to B&W using the various filters and I also am using DxO to work with jpgs from scanned B&W film shot with my Nikon F6.
I have become a street photographer at the young age of 76.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Personally, DXO Photolab 2 Elite is my favorite post-processing software. I've been using Photolab for about a year-and-a-half. It only took a few months to realize how much consistently better and faster my results were with Photolab than from Lightroom. Lightroom does have a number of features I would love to see implemented in Photolab, but I found PhotoLab so much better and faster, and superior in so many other respects that I eventually uninstalled Lightroom from my computer. Of course, my perceptions and my processing requirements may differ from others.

avraham Loc: Reno, Nevada

I agree so far for my needs DxO works well. I have also dropped Lightroom.