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Apr 8, 2019 17:47:35   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DaveO wrote:
Actually, numb-nuts started this thread in Chit-Chat.


I wasn't sure. I was trying to inform a newer person that this IS the correct area at least now. I know some threads are started in the neutral area, sometimes because we, the members get so uppity that admin feels it should be in the Attic section.

Dennis

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Apr 8, 2019 18:08:51   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Ah, yet another brilliant well articulated response from one of those angry grumpy old men who haunt the WWW. I'm beginning to believe social media sites like this one should require admission tests to prevent socially deficient people from joining. Before you respond with the usual mindless rhetoric about my intelligence, I actually have a higher IQ than the guy residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
To answer your question, no, the draft ended before my 18th birthday. I had planned to enlist in the US Air Force but, since the war was over, their requirements must have changed and I was turned down so no, I am not a veteran. My father was a veteran of WWII and Korea. My uncle served in the Pacific in WWII. My closest cousin served in the middle East. My brother was in the Navy during Vietnam. Back then he was a medic and flew on helicopters that removed injured soldiers from combat zones, and served on another aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf in the early 1990's prior to retiring. My brother and I were very close and he wrote often and after he retired from the Navy, spent many hours sipping on a cold one and talking about his experiences during his 25 year Navy career. After he retired from the Navy he worked for the department of defense and spent many more years servicing electronics aboard US Navy vessels.
Ah, yet another brilliant well articulated respons... (show quote)


No reason to be insulting. I am not a grumpy old man at all. I just think you should refrain from making statements about veterans that are not necessarily true. Each veteran is an individual person and all have experienced things that may or may not have affected other veterans, even someone that veteran served side by side with. Saying you cannot lead a horse to water seems ingenuous to me and I think our veterans deserve better.

My best wishes to those of your family who did serve honorably in the military,

Dennis

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Apr 8, 2019 18:21:04   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I wasn't sure. I was trying to inform a newer person that this IS the correct area at least now. I know some threads are started in the neutral area, sometimes because we, the members get so uppity that admin feels it should be in the Attic section.

Dennis


LOL, yeah, sometimes stuff happens!

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Apr 8, 2019 20:22:00   #
sbohne
 
yhtomit wrote:
They show up at the border and they get...free food, medical care, housing, welfare, t***sportation to a city
where they receive housing, medical care, schools for their children...
You as a matter of fact do not know what your talking about.


You, sir, are the one who does not know what he is talking about, to wit:
https://www.nilc.org/issues/economic-support/overview-immeligfedprograms/

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Apr 8, 2019 20:24:22   #
sbohne
 
jdedmonds wrote:
This forum isn't for politics.


Number one, I was not the original poster
Number two, you did not admonish him obviously because you believe the same lies as he
Number three, yes, it is the place for politics,
Number four, unless you are the owner of the forum, please, GFY.

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Apr 8, 2019 20:25:23   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
sbohne wrote:
You, sir, are the one who does not know what he is talking about, to wit:
https://www.nilc.org/issues/economic-support/overview-immeligfedprograms/


Just a note...the SNAP funds comprise 80% or so of the so called Farm Bill.

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Apr 8, 2019 20:28:11   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
sbohne wrote:
Number one, I was not the original poster
Number two, you did not admonish him obviously because you believe the same lies as he
Number three, yes, it is the place for politics,
Number four, unless you are the owner of the forum, please, GFY.


The owner of the forum moved it from its original place in Chit-Chat to the Attic.

Sometimes it is beneficial to follow the thread. Most of the time not.

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Apr 8, 2019 20:40:02   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
sbohne wrote:
You, sir, are the one who does not know what he is talking about, to wit:
https://www.nilc.org/issues/economic-support/overview-immeligfedprograms/


I read, it appears that the main service provided to unqualified immigrants is emergency care during delivery for immigrant women. I know that Republicans do not like children and babies but remember, you cannot separate them if they are not yet born. Trump is re-pushing to increase separation of
Mothers and babies. You guys picked a real great Christian to lead this country.

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Apr 8, 2019 21:21:45   #
btbg
 
sbohne wrote:
You, sir, are the one who does not know what he is talking about, to wit:
https://www.nilc.org/issues/economic-support/overview-immeligfedprograms/


The article that you cite is disingenuous at best and at worst an out and out lie.

It is true that i******s are not eligible for snap benefits for themselves. However, and this is a big however, the state agencies that distribute that aid do not check to see if the children of an illegal are also illegal or not and they freely distribute snap benefits for the children regardless of whether or not they were born in the U.S.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if an illegal gets snap benefits for their children the illegal is also eating the food.

My wife recently retired as a welfare fraud investigator and this was one of the major points of contention is the millions of dollars that i******s get for their children. She was responsible for investigating the largest known welfare fraud case in Oregon history.

What happened is a butcher shop was purchasing benefit cards from i******s at 50 percent of the value of benefits on the card and then using the cards to purchase goods that they resold in a convenience store adjacent to the butcher shop.

There were millions of dollars involved and it was almost all i******s.

This is just one example of an exception to what is in the article you cited. However, the bigger issue is that many states currently don't even require someone who applies for snap benefits to prove they are legal. All they ask for is income verification and since i******s are either being paid under the table or are using false identities when they case worker checks income verification there is no income showing so the benefits are issued.

There are countless other areas where i******s also get benefits. For example there are a fairly large number of illegal children attending school in the school district that we live in. They are all receiving a free education at taxpayer expense, so to try to claim that i******s don't get benefits is ridiculous.

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Apr 9, 2019 01:09:25   #
jdedmonds
 
scooter1 wrote:
So race baiting is supposed to get your point across? Your comments about viagra etc. are pretty much your own imagination without facts as proof. Aside from your d********g racial slurs the experts say a wall will work and help in some places along the border. No offense but I'll take an experts assessment of the wall to your biased ideas. If there is anything else, besides defending "white folks" that I can help you with to better understand the situation I'm here everyday.
So race baiting is supposed to get your point acro... (show quote)


Well, maybe your "experts" say a wall will help, but the great majority say it will not. The wall is Trump's signature trope; it is so racially prejudiced against Hispanics (Trump isn't harping on our other border) that the "base," eager for confirmation bias (of an absolutely false belief) may be beginning to use their brains for rational thought instead of blindly accepting wh**ever this pariah says. There may be hope.

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Apr 9, 2019 07:23:59   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
I read, it appears that the main service provided to unqualified immigrants is emergency care during delivery for immigrant women. I know that Republicans do not like children and babies but remember, you cannot separate them if they are not yet born. Trump is re-pushing to increase separation of
Mothers and babies. You guys picked a real great Christian to lead this country.


Upside down f**g waving t*****r guy you are as phony as they come and a liar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyW1Pa3wKw

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Apr 9, 2019 07:24:52   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
sbohne wrote:
You, sir, are the one who does not know what he is talking about, to wit:
https://www.nilc.org/issues/economic-support/overview-immeligfedprograms/


You don't know what you are talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyW1Pa3wKw

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Apr 9, 2019 07:29:56   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Upside down f**g waving t*****r guy you are as phony as they come and a liar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyW1Pa3wKw


Why would anyone pay attention to a FOX news report from a group described as an anti-immigrant group that wants to decrease immigration into the United States. This description came from the first five seconds of the propaganda. This is your idea of facts.



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Apr 9, 2019 11:18:14   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Why would anyone pay attention to a FOX news report from a group described as an anti-immigrant group that wants to decrease immigration into the United States. This description came from the first five seconds of the propaganda. This is your idea of facts.


T*****r boy, many of us are aniti illegal invasion of the US. So, you, in your infinite ignorance decide not to pay attention to the t***h. Good job t*****r boy.

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Apr 9, 2019 11:43:20   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
T*****r boy, many of us are aniti illegal invasion of the US. So, you, in your infinite ignorance decide not to pay attention to the t***h. Good job t*****r boy.


Would you pray with me.

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