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Apr 4, 2019 09:47:20   #
ricardo7 Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile
 
Interesting national geographic article. In particular, see the short video midway through the article.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:14:53   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Link?

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Apr 4, 2019 10:26:57   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
Yes, a link please. Oh, and love that quote from H.L. Mencken! (I’m a confirmed atheist!)

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Apr 4, 2019 10:26:58   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
Yes, a link please. Oh, and love that quote from H.L. Mencken! (I’m a confirmed atheist!)

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Apr 4, 2019 10:39:10   #
ricardo7 Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile
 
Sorry about the missing link.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/04/ancient-teeth-hint-at-mysterious-human-relative/

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Apr 5, 2019 08:03:56   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
What a load of wild guesses.

We all have evidence that exists in the present, what conclusions we come to are determined by our starting assumptions.

For myself, I'll go with the only one who actually knows and was there in the beginning...God.

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Apr 5, 2019 10:03:45   #
krashdragon
 
rpavich wrote:
What a load of wild guesses.

We all have evidence that exists in the present, what conclusions we come to are determined by our starting assumptions.

For myself, I'll go with the only one who actually knows and was there in the beginning...God.


Ahhh...
" In the beginning..."
There was God.
God said "Let there be light."
And then he laughed because He knew that millenia from then, or whenever, because God doesn't use time, He doesnt need it....
men and women would spend countless hours trying to figure out...
1. What was before light,
and,
2. What was after light.
Answers.
1. God.
2. Everything else.
The HOW of everything is the fun part.
See how simple it all is? 😁

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Apr 5, 2019 11:01:04   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
rpavich wrote:
What a load of wild guesses.


Well the truth is a factual truth, that’s for sure. But that doesn’t stop millions from wanting to believe in something. And that’s OK!

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Apr 5, 2019 11:17:06   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
PaulBrit wrote:
Well the truth is a factual truth, that’s for sure. But that doesn’t stop millions from wanting to believe in something. And that’s OK!


The definition of truth is: "that which comports with reality."

Guesses about a past when no humans living now were present doesn't fit with that definition. They are guesses, that's all.

Now...are Christians in that same situation? (they weren't there) Yes...but they know someone who was there, the Creator God who has revealed things to humans via His written word.

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Apr 5, 2019 11:30:36   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
I'm happy for you to have the last word; not trying to prove anything!

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Apr 5, 2019 17:42:10   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
There is a line between Australia and Borneo where species either are not present or are adapted in different ways. This was part of the evolution theory . Species isolated on islands develop different ways to survive.('Land' lizards eating sea weed underwater when there is no longer vegetation on land) Equally Man has migrated unevenly throughout the globe. Evolution is determined predominantly by stress - the need to alter what we do. So is not evenly spread. Small populations may evolve more quickly OR stay as they were, longer, and because they had no need to change, or die out when 'change' is abrupt.
In the 19th Century much was made of 'appearance' when determining Man's history. The 20th Century brought in chemical analysis and later DNA. Our ability to look for ethnicity and origin of our ancestors is unfortunately dependent upon a brief window in time. When People's do not come into contact until fairly recently (Aborigines for example)DNA merely shows a small difference rather than a long 'history' because they were isolated from others for a very long time. In Europe you can find a much greater history because we can trace longer back, through the differences in populations now.

If you consider the 'Trade Routes' from China through and across Asia and Europe, Their DNA will hold clues of many peoples, no longer considered as separate 'Tribes'. It is little wonder that China will throw up 'Questionable' DNA results appearing to be 'untraceable'. Small groups will have died out rather than 'be absorbed' into the base line DNA. Even recent history has shown us genocide or simply extremely small family groups in isolation in various parts of the world.
Evolution is not a direct route from A to B. There are 'losers' as well as 'winners'. We still have 'familial' diseases. Certain races are more 'likely' to suffer certain medical conditions. Will those 'traits' die out in the future? In the long term will even their trace of DNA no longer make up any part of society?

Science is good at both giving us answer's and also raising new questions.

have fun

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Apr 5, 2019 20:28:48   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 


Heh heh.

Simply ongoing science. DNA has greatly enhanced the tracing of human evolution and movement. The time frames involved aren’t easily comprehensible. The story is complex because species prolifigrate and emigrate. Since DNA isn’t indestructable it is unlikely we’ll ever have a complete history. But new findings continue to add to the story. There is no reason to expect new findings to fit into our existing set of puzzle pieces. There are many more pieces to find and some pieces may not be recoverable.

Sorry about those who invoke religious belief to cover their inability to comprehend reality.

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Apr 6, 2019 02:15:45   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
IDguy wrote:

Sorry about those who invoke religious belief to cover their inability to comprehend reality.

You must be talking about evolutionists because you aren’t describing Christians...we comprehend reality just fine.
It’s ironic that your sentence came right after a paragraph full of things you describe that aren't “molecules-to-man evolution, they are just examples of adaption...which isnt the same. Adaption is observable science...evolution, on the other hand requires (for just one example) the addition of genetic information to an organism not already present. (Something that has never been observed).

So don’t conflate the religious belief of evolution with science, and try and say Christians invoke religion because they cant explain things, thats the stock in trade of evolutionists.

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Apr 6, 2019 20:08:11   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
rpavich wrote:
You must be talking about evolutionists because you aren’t describing Christians...we comprehend reality just fine.
It’s ironic that your sentence came right after a paragraph full of things you describe that aren't “molecules-to-man evolution, they are just examples of adaption...which isnt the same. Adaption is observable science...evolution, on the other hand requires (for just one example) the addition of genetic information to an organism not already present. (Something that has never been observed).

So don’t conflate the religious belief of evolution with science, and try and say Christians invoke religion because they cant explain things, thats the stock in trade of evolutionists.
You must be talking about evolutionists because yo... (show quote)


Science has uncovered amazing knowledge about evolution since the discovery of DNA. Sorry, but the biblical stories are complete nonsense. Most Christians understand that. It is only those incapable or unwilling to take on that knowledge that fall back on belief.

DNA science now traces evolution from the simplest organisms to humans.

That has nothing to do with the fact that there was a historical man named Jesus Christ who put forth a philosophy that we can all still live by today. He was smart enough to not make up creation stories.

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Apr 6, 2019 22:07:45   #
KenW Loc: Portland OR
 


I loved the un-intentional pun

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