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Mar 27, 2019 20:01:49   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
ORpilot wrote:
I still do my own B&W film development. If you would like me to develope your Kodachrome in B&W, I would do that.. just PM me. I'm interested in the result too.


B&W is a lot better than nothing!

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Mar 28, 2019 00:15:44   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Bipod wrote:
Dwayne's processed it's last roll of Kodachrome on Dec. 29, 2010.
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/us/30film.html

So just to verify: what you have is exposed rolls of Kodak Kodachrome 64?

What are the dates on the film, approximately when was it exposed, and how
has it been stored? Kodak stopped making this film in 2009, so the film stock
has to be at least 10 years old.

If it hasn't been in the freezer all these years, it would probably print with a strong
magenta cast (if not corrected). The good news is that exposed Kodachrome seems
to be rather stable if developed as B&W.

So B&W developing it --as well as being the only option--might actually be a better
option (even of Kodak were still processing Kodachrome).

This guy processed in his own B&W darkroom a roll of Kodachrome 64 that he found
inside a camera he bought at a flea market! So no cold storage at all. You can see
how it turned out:
ttps://www.lomography.com/magazine/255669-processing-a-kodachrome-64-in-b-and-w

He used D76, other people say they have used HC110 and Ilford developers. I think if
you send it to a good B&W lab willing to do cross-process (and that may be hard to find),
you''ll at least be able to see what's on the rolls. No promises though--some people
have gotten nothing.

There is a lab advertising this service on-line. I don't know anything about them. Maybe
someone here does: Process One in Kansas City. $15/roll + $8 to scan to CD.
https://processonephoto.com/kodachrome-processing.htm

Might be worth trying one roll to see what you get.

Personally, I've always hated the look of Kodachrome, and I cheered when it went away.
Dwayne's processed it's last roll of Kodachrome on... (show quote)


Why would you cheer when Kodachrome was discontinued? No one forced you to use it or even to look at images that were created using it. However those who did use it lost a film that they liked or that worked for their purposes, I'm not sure how that inconvenienced you. As far as your earlier post there certainly was a lot in it. I must say when I was reading it, I was affected by what has been called the M. E. G. O. syndrome. I do appreciate the heads up about Process One.

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Mar 28, 2019 04:30:07   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
And those of us who grew up reading Nat Geo loved the bright colors it gave the images in the magazine.

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Mar 28, 2019 07:12:22   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Why would you cheer when Kodachrome was discontinued? No one forced you to use it or even to look at images that were created using it. However those who did use it lost a film that they liked or that worked for their purposes, I'm not sure how that inconvenienced you. As far as your earlier post there certainly was a lot in it. I must say when I was reading it, I was affected by what has been called the M. E. G. O. syndrome. I do appreciate the heads up about Process One.



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Mar 28, 2019 10:31:18   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Why would you cheer when Kodachrome was discontinued? No one forced you to use it or even to look at images that were created using it. However those who did use it lost a film that they liked or that worked for their purposes, I'm not sure how that inconvenienced you. As far as your earlier post there certainly was a lot in it. I must say when I was reading it, I was affected by what has been called the M. E. G. O. syndrome. I do appreciate the heads up about Process One.


I'm sure everyone who used Kodachrome loved the color character and saturation it produced. In the end, there just wasn't enough demand. Kodak made a sensible business decision by discontinuing it, but that doesn't mean we have to like it. Current-day professional digital cinema cameras (the kind used to shoot major motion pictures) have settings to imitate the characteristics of several standard motion picture film stocks that were Hollywood staples for many years.

Brilliant engineers made digital cinema look almost exactly like film on the big screen. Certainly they could do the same with DSLRs and Kodachrome characteristics. The problem is there are a scant few of us old-timers who know and care, and there are fewer of us every year. We do not have any influence over the market.

The overwhelming majority of people who shoot photographs do it using their phones. And for what they need, a phone camera is more than sufficient. In fact, if you don't need the creative controls, (sometimes you don't) the quality of the newest smart phones is pretty much the equivalent of a current day moderately priced DSLR or mirrorless. I have an iPhone SE, which is the size of a 5 with some features of the 6. Not exactly state-of the-art, but I have grabbed some images with it that I like a lot. >Alan



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Mar 28, 2019 14:12:57   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
A lot of apps are available to make digital look like film.
Run down on 9 of them: https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/07/03/9-retro-style-plug-ins-for-photoshop-lightroom-and-more-give-your-photos-that-vintage-film-look/

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Mar 28, 2019 14:28:40   #
Bill P
 
Nicholas DeSciose wrote:
Several years ago the last days of Kodachrome or well documented very poetically and poignantly. The last roll was shot by a National Geographic photographer. And then processed By the Afro mentioned lab in Kansas City. And that was it. Everybody should look up those stories. I just can’t remember how long ago the last day of Kodachrome was


Not true. As a lifelong resident of Kansas, I am well aware that to folks on the coasts think that KC is all there is. Not true. Kansas City is a fine cosmopolitan city with many opportunities and services, including dozens of fine restaurants, and some of the best BBQ ever.

Dwayne's is, OTOH, nowhere close to KC. At the very least, it is a hard day's drive away, in Parsons Ks. A sleepy small town, it has, well, Dwayne's.

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Mar 28, 2019 15:39:00   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Bill P wrote:
Not true. As a lifelong resident of Kansas, I am well aware that to folks on the coasts think that KC is all there is. Not true. Kansas City is a fine cosmopolitan city with many opportunities and services, including dozens of fine restaurants, and some of the best BBQ ever.
Awesome living here! I love it.
Bill P wrote:
Dwayne's is, OTOH, nowhere close to KC. At the very least, it is a hard day's drive away, in Parsons Ks. A sleepy small town, it has, well, Dwayne's.

Not just around the corner, but 2.5 hours- hard?
(Bet you could get a good chicken fried steak there)

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Mar 29, 2019 01:48:09   #
Bipod
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Why would you cheer when Kodachrome was discontinued? No one forced you to use it or even to look at images that were created using it. However those who did use it lost a film that they liked or that worked for their purposes, I'm not sure how that inconvenienced you. As far as your earlier post there certainly was a lot in it. I must say when I was reading it, I was affected by what has been called the M. E. G. O. syndrome. I do appreciate the heads up about Process One.


You're right, RodeoMan. It was mean-spirited of me to say that. Sorry.

It's just that we get so much cheering about [i]brands[/b]. And most of the fuss made
about Kodachrome beng discontinued was for the sake of nostalgia, not photography.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:07:58   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Replying to Bipod: Kodachrome film embedded itself in popular culture for so long that it shaped the perception and thus the experience of millions of individuals for decades. This influence will wane in its impact over time as we leave behind this color film. It may survive as a niche via digital means of reproduction.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:50:04   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
[quote=Bipod]You're right, RodeoMan. It was mean-spirited of me to say that. Sorry.

It's just that we get so much cheering about [i]brands[/b]. And most of the fuss made
about Kodachrome beng discontinued was for the sake of nostalgia, not photography.[/quote]

But that nostalgia was because of the image quality and color characteristics of Kodachrome, at least to serious amateur or pro photographers who loved it.

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Mar 29, 2019 15:18:54   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
[quote=Bipod]You're right, RodeoMan. It was mean-spirited of me to say that. Sorry.

It's just that we get so much cheering about [i]brands[/b]. And most of the fuss made
about Kodachrome beng discontinued was for the sake of nostalgia, not photography.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply. I agree that many of the people bemoaning the loss of Kodachrome probably would not use it themselves. I did use it and it was a great sunny day film, but catch yourself outside on an overcast cloudy day with K-25 in your camera and you would be looking for a fence post or something to brace your camera on so you could make an image. I guess that it had great archival qualities and that is good. Perhaps the large imaging companies, kodak, Fuji, Ilford, etc) should be stepping up their efforts to increase the longevity of their product. On the digital side, the question is whether images will make it to next year let alone to the next century. I will occasionally visit a second hand or antique store and there will be photographs of people and places made in the 1800's. I think of all the images imprisoned on SD cards, photo dvds, hard drives, the cloud and etc and wonder what the odds are that these will be available to look at in the 22nd or 23rd century. I know that many of the photographs stored are not worthy of posterity, but many are. It is a shame for these great pictures to be lost. This sounds like a Hedge Hog topic. Anyway back to Kodachrome, I look at it as a group of bright pigments an artist would have available to dip his brush into if he should choose to do so. That is my poetic romantic argument for keeping kodachrome available. On the pragmatic business side, the cost of production including environmental concerns made its continued manufacture untenable. When you (kodak) are on a sinking ship, you look for what you can throw over board. I think Kodachrome was an obvious choice. Have a great rest of your day and beyond. Oh, yes thanks for the information about Process One. I actually live just north of where it is located. I compared its prices with Dwayes's in Parsons, Kansas and Dwayne's has the better of the comparison. I'll see you on the Hog.

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Mar 29, 2019 23:13:22   #
Bipod
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
But that nostalgia was because of the image quality and color characteristics of Kodachrome, at least to serious amateur or pro photographers who loved it.


Well, John, not every "serious amateur or pro" loved Kodachrome or would
agree with you on that. And these days, most of the nostalgia seems to
be due to the Paul Simon song.

But I'm sorry if you're still hurtin' because Mama took your Kodachrome away.

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Mar 29, 2019 23:35:11   #
Bipod
 
aellman wrote:
I'm sure everyone who used Kodachrome loved the color character and saturation it produced. In the end, there just wasn't enough demand. Kodak made a sensible business decision by discontinuing it, but that doesn't mean we have to like it. Current-day professional digital cinema cameras (the kind used to shoot major motion pictures) have settings to imitate the characteristics of several standard motion picture film stocks that were Hollywood staples for many years.

Brilliant engineers made digital cinema look almost exactly like film on the big screen. Certainly they could do the same with DSLRs and Kodachrome characteristics. The problem is there are a scant few of us old-timers who know and care, and there are fewer of us every year. We do not have any influence over the market.

The overwhelming majority of people who shoot photographs do it using their phones. And for what they need, a phone camera is more than sufficient. In fact, if you don't need the creative controls, (sometimes you don't) the quality of the newest smart phones is pretty much the equivalent of a current day moderately priced DSLR or mirrorless. I have an iPhone SE, which is the size of a 5 with some features of the 6. Not exactly state-of the-art, but I have grabbed some images with it that I like a lot. >Alan
I'm sure everyone who used Kodachrome loved the co... (show quote)

These days, post processing can give our color photos saturation beyond the dreams of Kodachrome.
(Or should I say "nightmares"?)

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