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Mar 25, 2019 14:14:21   #
whlsdn Loc: Colorado
 
Weddingguy wrote:
I understand your reasoning . . BUT . . . I have found that the "weak links" that have to replaced later have been my most expensive experiences.


Well, you're slowing me down with your logic, Weddingguy. But I appreciate it. Will take a little longer with this process.

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Mar 25, 2019 15:28:03   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
One thought you may wish to consider is that when you acquire a Quality Lens you only need to buy it once ---
The 75-300mm IS I owned was not a Quality Lens -- I ended up selling it for half of what I paid for it -- Which made it at least in my mind an expensive lens

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Mar 25, 2019 15:35:37   #
whlsdn Loc: Colorado
 
ken_stern wrote:
One thought you may wish to consider is that when you acquire a Quality Lens you only need to buy it once ---
The 75-300mm IS I owned was not a Quality Lens -- I ended up selling it for half of what I paid for it -- Which made it at least in my mind an expensive lens


Thanks, yes, I got that drift right away. Most - if not all - here are singing the same tune as you. That lens is off the consideration list. Terribly glad I asked this question here. I was pretty sure folks more knowledgeable than I would share their wisdom, and at least I was right about that.

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Mar 25, 2019 16:06:30   #
le boecere
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
This is Canon's first consumer-grade lens with IS. It's worth closer to $100, all things considered, including image quality.

The real question: what are you trying to accomplish? Just any old lens that will mount? Some specific focal length and / or target image type? "Lighter weight zoom", for what?

The current version, Canon EF 70-300mm F4-5.6 IS II USM , would be a much better choice, not as cheap of course, but for image quality, IS performance and weight over the same focal length.
This is Canon's first consumer-grade lens with IS.... (show quote)


"The real question: what are you trying to accomplish?"

Hooray! I'd like to see this clarifying question asked of nearly everyone who comes on the forum with request for "gear" advice. It might shorten threads by dissuading the many "rabbit trails" we tend to go down.

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Mar 25, 2019 16:27:22   #
whlsdn Loc: Colorado
 
le boecere wrote:
"The real question: what are you trying to accomplish?"

Hooray! I'd like to see this clarifying question asked of nearly everyone who comes on the forum with request for "gear" advice. It might shorten threads by dissuading the many "rabbit trails" we tend to go down.


No question you’re right. If we askers of questions would state our goals in sufficient detail in our opening - without boring the potential answerers to the point of mouse clicking, of course - we’d save you seasoned residents the labor of paving those trails of wisdom through the brambles of Lense Jungle, of Clickington and Megapixelplex, etc. But have you any idea how much we learn along these rabbit trails? Not the point, I suppose, and I do apologize for wasting anyone’s time. I’ve tried to be more precise in past posts seeking knowledge, but looking back, I can see I didn’t do well initially here.

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Mar 25, 2019 19:36:14   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
whlsdn wrote:
A few who see this may recall an earlier post from me inquiring about camera choices primarily related to sensor size. If so, you know all who followed the topic read lots of insightful and thoughtful input sent my way by our more knowledgeable members. For me, it was certainly instructional! I'll add there an update of more details on what I've done since getting that advice, but for here I have but one question.

I'm looking for an inexpensive telephoto lens to use with a Canon 5D Mark III (high shutter count, otherwise very nice, now cleaned & updated by C.R.I.S. in Chandler, AZ). I have 2 very appropriate lens, but I'm looking for a lighter weight long zoom. Does this fit the bill, and if it's in clean, good condition, is $150 a fair price? I think it's a Sept. 1995 edition, if I found the right one in the Canon Museum. (Doesn't mean THIS one is THAT old, of course.)
A few who see this may recall an earlier post from... (show quote)

by using cheap glass on a full frame camera, your not getting the most out of your camera, camera equipment does not come cheap and when you go full frame it becomes more so.

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Mar 26, 2019 12:28:24   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
whlsdn wrote:
Thanks, folks. I'm getting the general drift here: not a great choice.

CHG_CANON, to address your question of purpose, I have a Tamron SP AF XR Di LD IF 28-75mm 1:2.8 that I moved from my 60D and now is my main lens for the 5D Miii. It's just a little noisy focusing, but other than that, I love it! Having bought a camera with this lens on it and resold the camera with a cheaper lens and no loss of $, I nearly got it for free. How could I NOT love it? I also have the lens pictured below. It's old (Dates back to film cameras?), not cheap (though I still considered it a bargain) nor lightweight, but it is awesome.

Unless I find another insanely good bargain, I know I'll not be getting anything in the same class as either of these lenses. But I was hoping to find something with reach similar to or greater than the 70-200 L yet much more hikable. I did take a decent rocky trail hike here in AZ with the L, and I love the shots I took, but it isn't something I expect to repeat often.

For the full picture, so to speak, I should add here that I also have - and expect to keep for the foreseeable future - a Canon Rebel T6s and a Lumix GX85, each with a selection of lenses. That's representation from 3 nifty sensor formats right there! I'm having great fun probing the strengths and limitations of each. And exposing my own weaknesses and growth opportunities.

I'll be selling the Canon EOS 60D as soon as we get home to Longmont, CO and I decide what lens to send it off with. It was recently cleaned and updated by Key Camera in Longmont and received a good bill of health.
Thanks, folks. I'm getting the general drift here... (show quote)


While I consider the 70-200/2,8 a highly "hikable" lens, the 70-300L is considerable smaller!

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Mar 28, 2019 18:30:51   #
whlsdn Loc: Colorado
 
mrpentaxk5ii wrote:
by using cheap glass on a full frame camera, your not getting the most out of your camera, camera equipment does not come cheap and when you go full frame it becomes more so.


Thanks. One more nail in the coffin of cheap EF lenses for my used 5D Miii.

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Mar 28, 2019 19:26:19   #
whlsdn Loc: Colorado
 
speters wrote:
While I consider the 70-200/2,8 a highly "hikable" lens, the 70-300L is considerable smaller!


While I did a mild mile or more hike in the desert hills OK with the big gray guy on the 5D, the short hike that did me in I had the Tamron 28-75 2.8 on and the Canon 70-200 L 2.8 in its bag around my neck. My neck and left shoulder are still bad! So I'll roll the dice and choose one or the other for now - while I save $ for a lighter weight L with greater reach. But I don't really like changing lens on that camera out in the elements, so I need to make myself choose at the outset anyway.

Maybe my biggest concern with the gray beast is a stumble when I'm on a rocky trail and potential damage to a combination that would cost me more than 2K to replace. Eek. But, I know, that's one risk when one takes the FF leap.

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Apr 1, 2019 13:33:09   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
whlsdn wrote:
While I did a mild mile or more hike in the desert hills OK with the big gray guy on the 5D, the short hike that did me in I had the Tamron 28-75 2.8 on and the Canon 70-200 L 2.8 in its bag around my neck. My neck and left shoulder are still bad! So I'll roll the dice and choose one or the other for now - while I save $ for a lighter weight L with greater reach. But I don't really like changing lens on that camera out in the elements, so I need to make myself choose at the outset anyway.

Maybe my biggest concern with the gray beast is a stumble when I'm on a rocky trail and potential damage to a combination that would cost me more than 2K to replace. Eek. But, I know, that's one risk when one takes the FF leap.
While I did a mild mile or more hike in the desert... (show quote)


Well, I have that 70-200/2.8 II hanging on my neck all day long, on hikes and anywhere else, I do not really feel it!

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Apr 2, 2019 01:35:27   #
whlsdn Loc: Colorado
 
speters wrote:
Well, I have that 70-200/2.8 II hanging on my neck all day long, on hikes and anywhere else, I do not really feel it!


I'm envious! A backpack is about the only way I can carry much weight for much distance or time anymore. Hung around my waist or my neck, stuff promises to haunt me for days afterward...and line the pockets of my chiropractor. I used to be tougher. At least that's the way my memory sees it, but I know that's not so reliable anymore either.

Enjoy your abilities! And your quality lens.

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