GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

Cleaning out our book case.
Have a bundled kit I don't think was ever installed.
Should I just toss it or could it be any use to someone since it’s so out of date ?

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

They require old, unsafe operating systems. Using them would be a security risk if your computer is on the Internet, since older systems won't work with new virus protection software. The Mac versions of those won't even run on recent Mac operating systems. Nor should they.

Software changes so quickly, it was almost always obsolete when they put it in a box. That's why the major developers are moving to subscription models. For a low fee, you always have the latest version with all the security patches, all the new features, and all the bug fixes. Of course, that accelerates the rate at which people must buy new computers, but it makes the learning curve easier if you use the software all the time. A few changes are easier to assimilate than a whole 18-24 months of new development in a typical upgrade.

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

Thanks. I have the latest full edition. Sounds like it’s not worth it. Back to cleaning up.

Brian Hartnell Loc: Marinette WI

The Photoshop Elements 2019 is only $69 or thereabout and if you purchase the package with both your still only looking at about $100 or so dollars. I don't buy into the premise of subscription services unless your in need of the latest and greatest. The newest Photoshop Elements 2019 will do everything you need without being tethered to the internet and a good virus protection software on your machine will be more than capable to protect your operating system. This will also be a version you can use for many years until you decide the feature set improvements are worth the upgrade. You might even forego Adobe Photoshop Elements, Lightroom or Photoshop CC for On1 Photo Raw 2019. It is more than capable of doing everything, including layers that Lightroom doesn't support. One time purchase and no subscription. Try out their trial version. This is more powerful than Adobe Photoshop Elements and better than Lightroom for photo editing. Subscription services are better for those who are in the business and need the latest and greatest and don't mind investing monthly to rent the software. When you stop paying, you lose access to that software. On the other hand purchase On1 Raw Photo 2019, you will own it with updates for a year and options to upgrade to newer versions if you find features you would like.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Lightroom SHOULDN'T support layers. It is a completely non-destructive environment. It never changes your original files. It just saves commands TO change your files when you get duplicate files out of it, in one of several ways.

When you stop paying the subscription fee, your images are left intact. You just can't add new ones to the LR catalog, or make editing changes to existing images. You can re-start the subscription at any time, so if you only need it for a couple months out of the year, that's all you pay for.

Lightroom CLASSIC has a (mostly) parametric editor with a few other simple tools. Beyond simple image adjustment, cropping, and spotting, Lightroom Classic is an image organizer, rating tool, cull editor, mapping tool, printing tool, export engine, web posting tool, book composing tool, and simple slideshow tool. It is tightly integrated with Photoshop, which is a completely different tool (although with some of the same parametric features in a potentially destructive environment). That's why the Adobe Photography Bundle includes TWO different Lightrooms, and Photoshop and Bridge and ACR (shared by all four) and... all for the same price.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Very definitely toss.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Lightroom does not support layers non destructively, but it probably could. Of course it would then start to compete with PhotoShop. ON1 already does it. Their latest version, ON1 2019, now supports layers for raw images non destructively. A first by any software I believe. The following is from ON1's announcement of the new version last December.

"A New Workflow for Layers – ON1 Layers is no longer a separate module. Instead, the power of layers is accessible within the non-destructive workflow in the new Edit module. This allows for creating or editing multi-layered files, including raw files, and keeping non-destructive settings for each photo layer."

cruise4two

Question...where have you seen Photoshop 2019 for $69 ? All my searches yield $100 or so.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Photoshop CC 2019 is $9.99/month in a bundle that includes TWO versions of Lightroom plus Bridge, ACR, and some other goodies.

Photoshop ELEMENTS is about $80 and includes Premiere Elements for simple video editing. It’s sometimes sold for less.