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Mar 23, 2019 21:40:00   #
khorinek
 
Yes, latest.

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Mar 23, 2019 22:59:40   #
MW
 
DW wrote:
I’ve been doing some research, just interested in what you fine folks think. If money were no object and you were buying your first full-frame camera, would it be a DSLR or mirrorless? I’m looking at the D850 but just comparing it to the Z7.


If money were truly no object I wouldn’t fool around with toy cameras be go straight to medium format!

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Mar 24, 2019 01:06:22   #
Bernu
 
Except that Canon corrected some mistakes that were apparent on the R model.

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Mar 24, 2019 12:54:04   #
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MW wrote:

If money were truly no object I wouldn’t fool
around with toy cameras be go straight to
medium format!


Well acoarst ! Money being no object,
you just pay someone to carry it !

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Mar 25, 2019 08:30:39   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
felo6162009 wrote:
The best advise that I got about cameras came from the professional photographer Joe Edelman. He told me you making an investment on you camera and lenses, the best way on going about it it's first know what is that you want to capture and then pick a DSLR and A lens and rent it at the same time pic a mirroless camera and a lens and rent it and see which one fits your needs before you make an investment


If money is no object then spending $500 or more on rentals might work. For most if you take $500 out of the budget, you can't buy a camera afterward. This is assuming a non-professionals restrictions, allowing for two weeks of rental for two bodies and two lenses. Wait I just checked $500 is closer to one week of rentals for these two bodies and a lens for each. Z7 = 170, D850 = 156, Z24-70 f4 = 54, F24-*70 2.8 = 99. One week total $484. If you are not a pro and you are on any kind of budget, there is no way to get the time and conditions to test two bodies and two lenses in one week.

Also as a non-pro, you could not deduct the rental as a business expense.

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Mar 25, 2019 08:35:36   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
khorinek wrote:
yes, but it's like comparing the 6D mark II to the 5D mark IV. The resulting images are nearly identical, the difference is in the "gadgets" on the body and R didn't get the same good reviews as the RP. I've programmed my RP to my needs and and I'm happy with it.


Are you replying to some other comment? It seems that you are. When doing so, it helps to use "Quote Reply" so your comments have context.

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Mar 25, 2019 11:16:27   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I'd like to have a mirrorless for European vacations because of the size. Otherwise, I'll take my DSLR.

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Mar 25, 2019 12:07:27   #
BebuLamar
 
dsmeltz wrote:
If money is no object then spending $500 or more on rentals might work. For most if you take $500 out of the budget, you can't buy a camera afterward. This is assuming a non-professionals restrictions, allowing for two weeks of rental for two bodies and two lenses. Wait I just checked $500 is closer to one week of rentals for these two bodies and a lens for each. Z7 = 170, D850 = 156, Z24-70 f4 = 54, F24-*70 2.8 = 99. One week total $484. If you are not a pro and you are on any kind of budget, there is no way to get the time and conditions to test two bodies and two lenses in one week.

Also as a non-pro, you could not deduct the rental as a business expense.
If money is no object then spending $500 or more o... (show quote)




If you are a pro then you can weigh the cost of your gear vs how much money you can make. But as an amateur buying gear is never an investment (well may be sometimes when I bought a used camera for $5 and sold it for $100).

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Mar 27, 2019 11:15:55   #
RichardSmithTaylor
 
I am a new Forum member. I need to purchase a new digital camera. Ordinarily I would think DSLR. I have been using high quality point-and-shoot cameras for a couple of years due to cost considerations. Now I need a "real" camera. The only drawback I see in a DSLR is the sound of the mirror flop, which mirrorless doesn't have. We've all heard the constant rat-a-tat sound of still press photographers shooting countless frames at televised news conferences. This may not be objectional in some circumstances, but can be quite annoying when you shoot in a quiet setting where the sound of the mirror flop would be objectional, or give your presence away if you are trying to shoot without being noticed. Also my limited vision leads me to use the EVF anyway, as I have no vision in my right eye and the optical viewfinder of a DSLR is hard for me to use anyway.

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Mar 27, 2019 12:22:59   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Welcome! But are you saying you were using fake cameras? I think the cameras you were using were real cameras! Just sayin 🥴

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Mar 27, 2019 14:54:25   #
khorinek
 
RichardSmithTaylor wrote:
I am a new Forum member. I need to purchase a new digital camera. Ordinarily I would think DSLR. I have been using high quality point-and-shoot cameras for a couple of years due to cost considerations. Now I need a "real" camera. The only drawback I see in a DSLR is the sound of the mirror flop, which mirrorless doesn't have. We've all heard the constant rat-a-tat sound of still press photographers shooting countless frames at televised news conferences. This may not be objectional in some circumstances, but can be quite annoying when you shoot in a quiet setting where the sound of the mirror flop would be objectional, or give your presence away if you are trying to shoot without being noticed. Also my limited vision leads me to use the EVF anyway, as I have no vision in my right eye and the optical viewfinder of a DSLR is hard for me to use anyway.
I am a new Forum member. I need to purchase a new ... (show quote)

I would go mirrorless, Canon EOS R or RP. I have the RP and love it.

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Mar 27, 2019 15:41:23   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
If I was starting again, it sure would be mirror-less, and it certainly would be Sony.I think that they have the best system.
Nikon and Canon are playing catch up, and I don't know if they ever will. They are counting on the folks that have legacy lenses and they just want to use them. But if i was starting out, I wouldn't have that problem, and i would jump into Sony.

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Aug 23, 2019 12:19:28   #
IShootemWithaCamera Loc: Ogden, Utah
 
I use to have a pentax Spotmatic f, but that was many years ago. I want to get another camera, and money really isn't an issue. However, I don't want a camera that is going to be cumbersome or have so much over my head technology that I wouldn't enjoy it. I am a novice and want a really good quality camera along with whatever other gear I might need. Since I have nothing now I'm feeling like I should probably go mirrorless, but I don't know. I've got a lot I don't know that I'm willing to learn but I'm not into it to the point that it will ever be a career. Mostly family pictures, maybe some photo shoots for family for only what it costs me or maybe free if its a simple session. Love traveling and shooting wildlife/landscape. I would welcome advice on brand, type to consider along with other gear I might need without a bunch of needless purchases I would never use. I welcome any and all advice from those who may have the same interests.

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Aug 23, 2019 13:55:44   #
Bernu
 
I just recently switched to mirrorless. Started with the camera M camera and now I went to the full frame Canon RP. I especially like the size difference compared to the DSLR cameras. I also like being able to use Canon EF lenses on these cameras with the adapters. This was a smart move by Canon, since it makes the transition to mirrorless a lot easier on the wallet. The picture quality is outstanding

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Aug 24, 2019 09:42:04   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
DW wrote:
I’ve been doing some research, just interested in what you fine folks think. If money were no object and you were buying your first full-frame camera, would it be a DSLR or mirrorless? I’m looking at the D850 but just comparing it to the Z7.

I am not a Nikon user - but I did go to our local camera store when Nikon came through with their "road show" introducing the Z7. I was impressed with the whole setup, especially the EVF which I was hardly aware of not being "live". It is a lot of money - but so is the D850. I'm afraid I'm not much help here.

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