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Mar 21, 2019 13:55:03   #
tomcat
 
mas24 wrote:
I haven't shot any baseball games yet. But, I have shot one inside basketball game with poor lighting, and a not fast enough lens. I have done several summertime outdoor kids soccer games. The suggestions of auto focus or back focus appear to be good advice. I saw a video last year where pro photographer Tony Northrup, was using back focus, when his daughter, playing softball, was running towards first base. He was positioned at first base though.. Because of how a baseball field is spread out. I would think that photographing a baseball game would be more difficult than say football, soccer, and basketball. A 70-200mm f2.8 is a good lens for practically any sports.
I haven't shot any baseball games yet. But, I have... (show quote)


Next time you shoot a basketball game, if you can get close to the court, on the sidelines, but use an 85mm f/1.8 lens. I use this as well as the Sigma Art 135mm f/1.8 lens. Both of these will give you 1 ⅓ stops more light than the f/2.8 lens. I don't even take the 2.8 lenses now---they are useless in the basketball and gymnastic venues that I shoot in because of the very dim lighting. A 2.8 lens will hike the ISO up to 18,000 to 20,000; whereas the f/1.8 lenses will get me back down to more reasonable 4,800 to 6,400 range.

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Mar 21, 2019 14:05:30   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
tomcat wrote:
Next time you shoot a basketball game, if you can get close to the court, on the sidelines, but use an 85mm f/1.8 lens. I use this as well as the Sigma Art 135mm f/1.8 lens. Both of these will give you 1 ⅓ stops more light than the f/2.8 lens. I don't even take the 2.8 lenses now---they are useless in the basketball and gymnastic venues that I shoot in because of the very dim lighting. A 2.8 lens will hike the ISO up to 18,000 to 20,000; whereas the f/1.8 lenses will get me back down to more reasonable 4,800 to 6,400 range.
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Perhaps you didn't notice, but this thread is about Baseball. Best of luck.

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Mar 21, 2019 14:16:29   #
tomcat
 
cjc2 wrote:
Perhaps you didn't notice, but this thread is about Baseball. Best of luck.


I was replying to mas24 and not the OP, you turkey🤪
I already left some comments to the OP about baseball in an earlier post.

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Mar 21, 2019 14:21:28   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
tomcat wrote:
I was replying to mas24 and not the OP, you turkey🤪
I already left some comments to the OP about baseball in an earlier post.


I noticed, but that's called stealing the thread and can lead to others not hearing your glowing advice. Fixed FL lenses, especially fast ones, are very useful with indoor sports, but I have yet to meet a gym where I couldn't use my 70-200 if I wanted to. If I can get behind the basket I also like 50 and 35 lenses. Best of luck.

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Mar 21, 2019 14:56:23   #
tomcat
 
cjc2 wrote:
I noticed, but that's called stealing the thread and can lead to others not hearing your glowing advice. Fixed FL lenses, especially fast ones, are very useful with indoor sports, but I have yet to meet a gym where I couldn't use my 70-200 if I wanted to. If I can get behind the basket I also like 50 and 35 lenses. Best of luck.


I wish you lived closer, then you could come shoot with me one day in the gym and the gymnastics venues that I shoot in. They use banks of fluorescent lights to light the gymnasium and the light level is right at the light level required for public occupancy in a building in the state of NC. There are no LED or halogen lights available. It is similar to shooting inside a church or the movie theatre before the lights dim for the show. Your 70-200mm is only going to get you 18-20K ISO and noisy images. I have been doing this for 2 years and the first year, I struggled with the 70-200mm and every option of shutter speed available and you simply cannot make a decent image. There is just no light available. So the 2nd year, I bought the faster lenses and a Nikon D3s and it was a miracle what I could now get. Now I can get an ISO of 6-8k and it is like shooting in sunshine. You gotta remember that these high school gyms and amateur gymnastics are not set up for ESPN broadcasts so the money is not allocated in the budget for bright lighting---only the minimum designed to meet the Safety Code for the state. High school staff does not consider the possibility of anyone ever wanting to take Sports Illustrated covers there. I am so thankful that I was able to get this combo of equipment to get a decent image to work with. And then a few months ago, AI Clear came out and it was another leap forward with noise removal and sharpening on those images. So I am fairly well satisfied right now with what I can do on a retiree's budget. If I had paying customers and a profitable business, I would have the D5 and that new 500mm FP lens.

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Mar 21, 2019 15:06:49   #
CO
 
Nikon has a good diagram that shows what can happen if menu option a1: AF-C priority selection is set to Release. That could be why your having focusing problems - some clear, some soft/fuzzy.

https://nps.nikonimaging.com/technical_solutions/d4_tips/autofocus/


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Mar 21, 2019 15:56:46   #
Taz1
 
How does back button focus work?

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Mar 21, 2019 16:12:24   #
CO
 
Taz1 wrote:
How does back button focus work?


Take a look at this Nikon technical solutions. The first thing is about back button focus. The next thing is about the focusing.

https://nps.nikonimaging.com/technical_solutions/d4_tips/autofocus/

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Mar 21, 2019 16:37:32   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Taz1 wrote:
Have a Nikon d7500 with a 80-300mm f4.5/6.3 zoom lens and a 70-200mm f2.8 zoom lens; shooting college baseball. Getting excellent focus and clear shots last year. Had the settings written down and have lost them. Now experimenting with settings. Mostly daytime shooting to 3rd base or short, runner and retrieving ball action shots. Having focusing problems. Some are clear others are soft/fuzzy. Have made so many changes to settings, not sure which one(s) are now causing me the problems. Usually shoot at 1/2000 to 3200; ISO 200-800 (depending on which lens I am using and sunny or overcast day) with spot metering or 9-point, continuous - high, AF-C. Any recommendations on how to correct the settings would be so appreciated. Losing so many shots once I get back to review the shots after the game. Miss being able to just pick and choose without worrying about the "softness".
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Hi Taz1:
Hope this helps.
I shoot with a D500 and for all my outside sports I use a Nikon 80-400 4.5-5.6. I set my camera this way:
Shutter priority usually at 1/2000 at wide open, auto white balance, auto iso. Back button focus, release mode and a/c with group focus (4 little boxes) I can't use single anymore, to old to follow these fast athletes. Besides group works great. With your permission I have included two shots here. The first one 1/2000 at 5.6 iso 1250 and the second one 1/3200 at 5.6 iso 560. Remember the iso is just doing what it has to.
Good luck,
Jules


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Mar 21, 2019 17:02:05   #
Taz1
 
Thank you, very helpful.

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Mar 21, 2019 17:02:45   #
Taz1
 
I will study this tonight when I have my camera handy, but appears to be great options to try.

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Mar 21, 2019 17:10:18   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Taz1 wrote:
I will study this tonight when I have my camera handy, but appears to be great options to try.


All the comments you have received here from the club members are right on. Some you will use others maybe not. Practice before the game during warmups and look at everything at 100% in the viewfinder when chipping. At 100% enlargement you will have less surprises when you get home and upload the shots on your computer.

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Mar 21, 2019 18:46:26   #
tomcat
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Hi Taz1:
Hope this helps.
I shoot with a D500 and for all my outside sports I use a Nikon 80-400 4.5-5.6. I set my camera this way:
Shutter priority usually at 1/2000 at wide open, auto white balance, auto iso. Back button focus, release mode and a/c with group focus (4 little boxes) I can't use single anymore, to old to follow these fast athletes. Besides group works great. With your permission I have included two shots here. The first one 1/2000 at 5.6 iso 1250 and the second one 1/3200 at 5.6 iso 560. Remember the iso is just doing what it has to.
Good luck,
Jules
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Wow. Jules, these are great and are spot-on for sharpness. They must have been fun to process.

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Mar 21, 2019 18:57:29   #
pnittoly Loc: Mountainside, New Jersey
 
I second contacting Jules Karney. He’s the best. You’ll find him in the UHH sports section.

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Mar 21, 2019 19:26:33   #
CO
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Hi Taz1:
Hope this helps.
I shoot with a D500 and for all my outside sports I use a Nikon 80-400 4.5-5.6. I set my camera this way:
Shutter priority usually at 1/2000 at wide open, auto white balance, auto iso. Back button focus, release mode and a/c with group focus (4 little boxes) I can't use single anymore, to old to follow these fast athletes. Besides group works great. With your permission I have included two shots here. The first one 1/2000 at 5.6 iso 1250 and the second one 1/3200 at 5.6 iso 560. Remember the iso is just doing what it has to.
Good luck,
Jules
Hi Taz1: br Hope this helps. br I shoot with a D50... (show quote)


Group-Area AF is great. There's a fifth hidden focus point in the center. The five autofocus points act as one.

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