Have Photoshop elements 2018 and Topaz Studio. Thinking on getting the deal with photoshop, Lightroom cc and Lightroom classic for $10/month mainly so I can get my photos on different pc's and phone. Is it worth it? I'm just an amateur trying to fill my time. Thanks in advance
It depends on your requirements....
I have Elements 14 and 2019, Photo Impact Pro, and Cannon's DPP. They do all I need to be done, and all are buy once. (My needs don't require me to update often. One was six years before I updated.)
My opinion is yes, without doubt.
Usually the train of thought on UHH is which program to use. The comparisons are usually one against another. Maybe Elements vs Photoshop. Or Lightroom vs ON1, etc.
The (usually) unnoticed trend at Adobe is that the parts of the $10 plan are being linked together. Each update brings stronger links. Photoshop CC, Lightroom (mobil) CC, Lightroom Classic (disk) CC and Portfolio are a bundle. One day you may be on a "make a print" work flow. Another day you want to put a dozen images in an online Gallery to share. A different day you want to add a recent favorite to your permanent Portfolio. One day you take a picture with your phone and want it in Lightroom Classic. There is a way to do that automatically.
Top it off, Topaz can be integrated into both Lightroom Classic and Photoshop to make the system even more capable.
bsprague wrote:
My opinion is yes, without doubt.
Usually the train of thought on UHH is which program to use. The comparisons are usually one against another. Maybe Elements vs Photoshop. Or Lightroom vs ON1, etc.
The (usually) unnoticed trend at Adobe is that the parts of the $10 plan are being linked together. Each update brings stronger links. Photoshop CC, Lightroom (mobil) CC, Lightroom Classic (disk) CC and Portfolio are a bundle. One day you may be on a "make a print" work flow. Another day you want to put a dozen images in an online Gallery to share. A different day you want to add a recent favorite to your permanent Portfolio. One day you take a picture with your phone and want it in Lightroom Classic. There is a way to do that automatically.
Top it off, Topaz can be integrated into both Lightroom Classic and Photoshop to make the system even more capable.
My opinion is yes, without doubt. br br Usually... (
show quote)
Wow, I must really like simplicity.
I just modify the image, save it, and use it for the web, Facebook, and printing.
(I use Image Resizer power toy in Windows (part of file menu) to re-size for FB and anything else that needs re-sizing.)
Jack729
Loc: United States, planet earth, milky way galaxy
I purchased affinity photo after ps became a rental. 50 bucks once and you own it. I have been very pleased with it for editing, however, I cant speak on capability/compatibility because I haven't explored that end of it - might be worth looking in to?
Longshadow wrote:
Wow, I must really like simplicity.
I just modify the image, save it, and use it for the web, Facebook, and printing.
(I use Image Resizer power toy in Windows (part of file menu) to re-size for FB and anything else that needs re-sizing.)
There is nothing wrong with keeping it simple.
On the other hand, I'm retired and have the time to enjoy the challenge of learning. I particularly like learning photographic and videographic tools and techniques. Unfortunately I think I'm better at solving workflow complexities than I am at making great compositions.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
loboal wrote:
Have Photoshop elements 2018 and Topaz Studio. Thinking on getting the deal with photoshop, Lightroom cc and Lightroom classic for $10/month mainly so I can get my photos on different pc's and phone. Is it worth it? I'm just an amateur trying to fill my time. Thanks in advance
YOu'll never grow out of it - like most other applications that lack the rigorous development cycle.
I saw several different programs mentioned and the relative cost of each, but I did not see an entry discussing quality. I am left wondering whether it is because A) all programs deliver essentially the same results, or B) in the age of electronic display, any differences in quality is lost in the noise level of the displayed images..
How much quality are you personally willing to give up, and how much workflow are you willing to put up with to save a few bucks here and there.
SS319 wrote:
I saw several different programs mentioned and the relative cost of each, but I did not see an entry discussing quality. I am left wondering whether it is because A) all programs deliver essentially the same results, or B) in the age of electronic display, any differences in quality is lost in the noise level of the displayed images..
How much quality are you personally willing to give up, and how much workflow are you willing to put up with to save a few bucks here and there.
Can you, or anyone, offer a quality comparison? I'd be interested.
Longshadow wrote:
Can you, or anyone, offer a quality comparison? I'd be interested.
If I offered one, it would be second hand from the web. I was actually looking for some comments from this group on quality of some of the "its just as good as PS", because where this group has given us their personal reviews of equipment or software, it far exceeds what is out on the web. I personally use PSP 2019, and have since about 1986 (Ver 0.1 in DOS 2.2). I don't look at PS or Affinity because it would just cost me money or envy if I liked them. I know that PS and LR do have incremental quality improvements over PSP and ASP, but I am happy with the Corel line. I don't spend $10/month, but I do spend $$54 per year to maintain PSP - I would like to see PSP go to the subscription model based on my experience with the µsoft office subscription.
SS319 wrote:
If I offered one, it would be second hand from the web. I was actually looking for some comments from this group on quality of some of the "its just as good as PS", because where this group has given us their personal reviews of equipment or software, it far exceeds what is out on the web. I personally use PSP 2019, and have since about 1986 (Ver 0.1 in DOS 2.2). I don't look at PS or Affinity because it would just cost me money or envy if I liked them. I know that PS and LR do have incremental quality improvements over PSP and ASP, but I am happy with the Corel line. I don't spend $10/month, but I do spend $$54 per year to maintain PSP - I would like to see PSP go to the subscription model based on my experience with the µsoft office subscription.
If I offered one, it would be second hand from the... (
show quote)
I would imagine that each editor may yield about the same end results for the most common adjustments. However I do understand that there would probably be different manipulation options between editors. Some people will use many of the options, some will not. Some editors may be better (or easier) in manipulating the sky, artifacts, etc.. It all boils down to does the editor do what you need it to do. But I suppose one would not find that out until they try one.
I'd be interested in seeing any comparison reviews.
loboal wrote:
Have Photoshop elements 2018 and Topaz Studio. Thinking on getting the deal with photoshop, Lightroom cc and Lightroom classic for $10/month mainly so I can get my photos on different pc's and phone. Is it worth it? I'm just an amateur trying to fill my time. Thanks in advance
You goals seem to be having photos sync to different PCs and phone, then it might be a good move for you. FYI, you get portfolio and bridge too with the subscription plan as well as the others you mentioned. Since you know PS Elements the transition to PS will be easier.
They offer a free demo period, 30 days I think. Why not install the demo and give it a try? Then you can decide for yourself if you want to fork out the money.
I also use Corel Paint Shop Pro. I started using it at version 3 when it was a Jasc product. I was a little worried when Corel bought it, I thought it may become bloated but that does not seem to be the case. I like to pay once for my software then upgrade if and when I choose to. I have not used Photoshop for many years so I cannot comment on a straight comparison. I am now on my 3rd Nikon camera and PaintShop Pro has had no trouble with RAW files from any of them. I do know that when I use PSP I never feel that I am missing any features. The only downside with PSP is that there are is not the publicity, magazines, or mentions in photography publications about the product so I am always aware that I am not using what everyone else is using. There is a trial version offered by Corel so you can try it for free.
Des
If you want to reply, then
register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.