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Mar 13, 2019 17:21:21   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
It was suggested that I try to get a head shot of one of my tadpoles to confirm ID, I found this difficult as it was swimming around but this is what I got. As an update, many are swimming around now and needing a larger tank.

I also found another water snail to shoot which I enjoyed doing more.


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Mar 13, 2019 17:24:23   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 

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Mar 13, 2019 17:34:23   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
Increase the odds on being a salamander. They are primarily predators on small arthropods. The mouth is wider, as seen, than the mostly algae grazing frog and toad tadpoles, which are 'beaked'. And toothed.

Notice the predator,s forward facing eyes. Frog and toad tadpoles are bulging from sides of the head, eye proper not seen in frontal view.

Aerate and keep with the snails. They may eat their eggs. They may eat brine shrimp, too, but they (the shrimp) will die quickly when put in fresh water. Cleanliness is essential. Bacteria 'bloom' suddenly and use the oxygen. Aeration and water changes a must. Methaline blue, I think it is called, for Ick in fish KILL most organisms NOT fish or plants. That is my experience. Once. Never tried that again.
Hope you get some to next stage. Thanks for YOUR efforts. In all this.
Bill

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Mar 13, 2019 17:43:42   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
newtoyou wrote:
Increase the odds on being a salamander. They are primarily predators on small arthropods.
Thanks for responding Bill, I knew it wasn't a toad as apparently they lay their eggs in strings and not clumps.

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Mar 13, 2019 17:43:43   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
very good water snails!

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Mar 13, 2019 18:47:01   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
newtoyou wrote:
Notice the predator,s forward facing eyes. Frog and toad tadpoles are bulging from sides of the head, eye proper not seen in frontal view.
Bill, I was thinking those depressions were perhaps intended to become breathing holes whereas the eyes are bulging on the side on the head. Not sure though.

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Mar 13, 2019 19:31:13   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
EnglishBrenda wrote:
Thanks for responding Bill, I knew it wasn't a toad as apparently they lay their eggs in strings and not clumps.
Another point👍

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Mar 13, 2019 20:12:14   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
EnglishBrenda wrote:
Bill, I was thinking those depressions were perhaps intended to become breathing holes whereas the eyes are bulging on the side on the head. Not sure though.
Some conjecture: The tadpole stage in salamanders have a distinctive difference.
Salamanders are primarily carnivorous, sight feeders as tadpoles. That is why f&t tadpoles have the eyes they have. They eat algae. It cannot escape. It is easy to find.In adults the eyes are more similar, both f&t and salamanders are predatory. They have binocular vision, yet see all around to avoid predators.
In f&t the stage is set, the eyes need little restructuring to adult. With salamanders it must be otherwise, eyes must reconfigure more. Again, conjecture. We will see as they mature.

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Mar 14, 2019 11:52:05   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Great shots Brenda. You did good.

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Mar 14, 2019 12:20:09   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Great shots Brenda. You did good.
Thanks Dennis, it is nice to hear from you, I hope you are OK and still taking photos.

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Mar 15, 2019 13:25:42   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
I am liking these pictures, and enjoying the subject. Had not noticed snails with eyes on the head, rather than on eye stalks. That is no doubt not unusual but is new to me.

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Mar 15, 2019 14:07:50   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I am liking these pictures, and enjoying the subject. Had not noticed snails with eyes on the head, rather than on eye stalks. That is no doubt not unusual but is new to me.


I looked a bit and found this. Land snails have two pair of tentacles. The taller pair have eyes at the tips. Sea snails have eyes at the base of the tentacles. This leaves a lot of room for more questions.
There is a fluke that parasitizes some snails. They work their way into snail tentacles and make them more noticable to birds, the next host.
Just some FYI.
Bill

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Mar 15, 2019 14:54:11   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
newtoyou wrote:
I looked a bit and found this. Land snails have two pair of tentacles. The taller pair have eyes at the tips. Sea snails have eyes at the base of the tentacles. This leaves a lot of room for more questions.
There is a fluke that parasitizes some snails. They work their way into snail tentacles and make them more noticable to birds, the next host.
Just some FYI.
Bill


Yes Bill, all my water snails have eyes at the base of the top pair of tentacles, I think this is normal for water snails.

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Mar 15, 2019 16:07:32   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
EnglishBrenda wrote:
Yes Bill, all my water snails have eyes at the base of the top pair of tentacles, I think this is normal for water snails.


One of those things that poses two questions for every one answered. Nature is grand that way.
Bill

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Mar 15, 2019 16:36:00   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
Is that a rear leg bud I see in the 2nd tad picture? Rear legs 1st is a frog thing...

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