Rab-Eye wrote:
Computer generated images are just that: computer generated. There is no capturing of an image.
A camera is a “computer.” Have you never had to update the operating software?
BigDen wrote:
A camera is a “computer.” Have you never had to update the operating software?
It is still capturing images through the effect of light on a light-sensitive material. Makes no difference if that is film or an electronic sensor.
First you said (quoting your initial post):
"I also prefer the non objective matter of fact steril look to the images" ("sterile" misspelling being yours)
Creating purposely sterile looking imagery (I.E. lacking in humanity, warmth, elan, etc) is most certainly objectification just as you stated it here, but now you've added:
"the skin, flesh, eye color, genitals, nipples are real images of real models that can be applied to the figures"
REAL human images (body parts!) pasted over the top of false bodies, is as objectifying as you can get without literally sewing together your own actual skin bags to wear ala Ed Gein.
CGI overlay is already being used to create false videos of famous people having sex with others, and we will soon enough see people striving endlessly to find some way to prove that they did not do what has been crafted rather than captured on film - everything from TV stars boinking goats, to powerful people shooting people, to estranged folks creating lies about one another to win custody and so on; does anyone truly need to further promote the promotion of dehumanization?
I "gurrantee" your attitude in all of this is the one aspect of your posts that is actually "scary".
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
I don't care for the images created because they are like looking at mannequins. The need facial expressions. A few laugh lines, or dimples, or wrinkles around the mouth.
What's next? Blow up Dolls???
Rab-Eye wrote:
Irrelevant.
Agreed.
What differentiates photography from CGI is the starting basis for the work. One can apply CGI onto a photograph to move it to the final image desired. However, CGI is not the starting photograph. And no, it is not the splitting of "heirs". The term "photography" has historical roots that define what it is.
Can one update (<--noun) subject matters of photography? (I can foresee printed images having a mechanism for applying update information as to the image. I.e., image of a barn that every year gets to look more and more destroyed until there is nothing there.)
Please don't waste my time.
Sorry, nothing here looks "real."
ecblackiii wrote:
Sorry, nothing here looks "real."
Defining whether an image is a photograph or not doesn't have anything to do with whether it looks "real" or not.
Photography, from the Greek, "drawing with light". No mention of a camera.
Fotoartist wrote:
Photography, from the Greek, "drawing with light". No mention of a camera.
Nor computer graphic image generation.
We cannot ignore "drawing", which requires some implement of a kind.
The only common ground is "graphic" between the two. Both are the manipulation to get some image. But the differentiation is in the original starting material.
FWIW, the camera is the mechanical duplication of the eye.
The rest is Physics, which goes into another realm of discussion.
I don’t like the fake look, so these do nothing for me at all.
The whole purpose is a fake look, and it isn't my attitude, it's just reality. In England the new technology isn't blow up dolls but real objectified female figures with anatomical features to be used as sex toys. I don't have an attitude, I'm just exposing something very real and could be considered sinister with 3D CG.
The sterile mannequin look is what I wanted to achieve. The images were presented for observation purposes and educational, if people can't appreciate the proccess it isn't my problem. The images can be rotated in any position, I choose to stay somewhat conservative in my approach, I'm not interest in showing genitalia, that's not me. I can add wrinkles and veins, blemishes and freckles but the sterile look is what I wanted to explore. I started this proccess in order to create figures that would be applied to 3D computer generated architecture, I just got carried away with the technology for exploring purposes.
Congratulations on achieving what you wanted to achieve. It's still just Crap, but if that's all you can do, so be it.
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