soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

U didn’t specify the one with the reindeer and the North Pole


http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/real-santa/

D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon

There is only one true Santa Claus. Please don't blaspheme!

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Hahahahaha

Angmo

So there’s a North Pole and South Line...

D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon

Yeah right, I suppose it's "f**e news", right? I didn't get that info from CNN. Just check all of the posts on Twitter and Facebook. You've obviously been watching too much Fox News. Maybe that's why you're blurryeyed?

There is one conservative talking head that I happen to agree with. Ann Coulter said: "The only National Emergency is that our President is an i***t".

And here I was thinking I'd never agree with anything that ever came out of her mouth. I stand corrected.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Gotta love the fools who h**e others for their religious beliefs... Why do you people even engage in such an argument if it is not from a point of disrespect? Pendejos.

D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon

I don’t h**e you, I just think you’re the fool. We will just have to respectfully agree to disagree. Peace vato pendejo. Love, Sancho

mwalsh Loc: Houston

"Not many people know that" -Lord Fluffy

And Lincoln was a Republican and healthcare is complicated...

Who knows these things?


Just MoMo!

Angmo

Read some books. You’ll be really smart too. Make sure they are smart books. Not leftie books.

D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon

I don’t think many conservatives know how to read. That’s why they go to church to have someone read the Bible to them and then tell them what it means. I’ve personally read more than 350 books over the past 10 years. Yes, I keep track and have a Word document listing each book and the date I finished it. None of them are “leftie” books. Only fiction books, you know, like the Bible.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

2 Corinthians 4:4 King James Version (KJV)

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Angmo

You don’t read, you merely look at words. You missed everything.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Except that he's rightly pointing out that you said that Adam and Eve are myths (a positive claim) as if you could know that for certain so he's asking "how can you know that?"

If you were being logical (and honest) in your thinking you'd say "I can't actually KNOW that because it's possible that a God exists and that He did what He said He did"

So yes...he's correct in calling you out.



And those who claim that there are no God's need to do the same.

The level of rational reasoning on this thread is about toilet level...barely 3" off of the ground. It's laughable how little folks have studied logic and philosophy around here.

To know that there is no God you'd logically have to have all knowledge in the universe, thus you'd have to be a God to know that there isn't one...but of course you cannot make that claim, the best you can do is to say "I don't think that there is a God..."



Don't lump the fairy tale of molecules-to-men evolution along with the other actual sciences, that's dishonest. Science is observable, testable, verifiable, and repeatable, while the past is not. You can't do experiments on the past, you can do experiments in the present on things that you have in the present and MAKE GUESSES as to what that implies but that's it. And as you do that, you invoke you PRESUPPOSITIONS about many many things, and that determines the CONCLUSIONS that you come to about those objects in the present and what MIGHT HAVE BEEN in the past.

PS: The proof that God exists is that without presupposing God, you can't do science. (for one thing)

Why?

Because the process of doing science involves the assumption of order in the universe. That the laws of nature do not arbitrarily change with time and space. Otherwise, how could scientists experiment and make predictions if physical laws didn’t operate consistently? Uniformity makes no sense in a random chance world of evolution. How can the evolutionist assume that the future will reflect the past in a mindless world begun with a big bang?

While evolutionists have proposed other reasons, only the biblical worldview gives an adequate basis for the uniformity of nature. The Bible says God created the universe, instituting and promising the uniformity of nature (Genesis 8:22). Christ Himself upholds the universe through the physical laws He ordained (Colossians 1:16–17; Hebrews 1:3). The giants of science knew this, many many of them were bible believers....Kepler, Bacon, Newton, and the list goes on.

You might say "well, the universe has always behaved like this in the past so we expect it to do so in the future" but that of course is viciously circular reasoning and thus is irrational. You might say..."I don't know but it just works" which of course is another non-answer that does nothing to shore up the evolutionist position.

I could do the same thing with morality, logic, knowledge, anything you want. I can show that God is the necessary precondition for the intelligibility of all human experience.

So yeah...I have good reasons to believe that God exists and have given bullet proof reasoning for it.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Hey Sancho, I'm agnostic but I have enough sense to not disrespect others for their religious beliefs, I was raised better than that.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Did any of those books explain what it means to make the error of "painting with a broad brush"?

FYI two things.

1.) Not everyone who goes to church lets someone "read the bible to them" though sadly that's the case too often...you don't have to be conservative to take this approach.

2.) To know that the bible is fiction you'd have to know that it's not what God claims it is. To know that you'd have to have infinite knowledge which of course you don't have. That's a huge error of reasoning.


Did any of those hundreds of books teach you how to not broad brush your opponents and to reason soundly?

If they did...you might want to revisit those books, these are basic errors in reasoning for sure.