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Mar 5, 2019 15:40:47   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
CamB wrote:
I lead tours of people off cruise ships in Juneau, Alaska. A few times every week, when things in front of us are amazing or spectacular, a guest will say to me “I wish I had brought my good camera.” What! You left your good camera at home and went on a cruise, I don’t say to them. I will never understand this.
You don’t need all your gear but take the best you’ve got. When you get ready to get off the ship each day, pick up the camera first then decide if you want to carry anything else. You can travel light and safe and still carry your best. You don’t want to regret not having it.
I lead tours of people off cruise ships in Juneau,... (show quote)


I get that. Haven'td been to Juneau in several years. The Tracy Arm tour is the best when you it the weather right.
I graduated from J-HS, class of '64. My folks lived there for many years. Sadly, they are both gone.
Thanks for the tip, Cam.

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Mar 5, 2019 17:39:43   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Gene51 wrote:
I shoot full frame Nikon, but in 2017 I was contemplating a change for an upcoming trip to Ireland. I borrowed a Sony RX10M3, loved it, waited a few weeks until the RX10M4 was released, and I bought that. Since you already have a great Sony camera, you will be familiar with the menu logic and organization. I would recommend this camera without hesitation. The price is steep, but it only hurts once.

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I shoot full frame Nikon, but in 2017 I was contem... (show quote)


Yes, the price of Sony RX10iv is steep. But you said, it only hurts once. It is without a doubt the best Bridge camera that exist today. There are other good Bridge cameras with a longer focal range, such as the Nikons P900/P1000, that cost less. The P1000 included RAW on that model, and extended the focal range to 3000mm. But, it cannot match the Sony RX10iv. The 600mm Zeiss lens on that camera is sufficient in range. Your photos posted on Flickr are awesome. It will take time to view most or all of them. My Nikon Bridge camera, bought in 2015, has a focal range of 22.5-855mm. But, it has that tiny 1/2.3" sensor, that is in many Bridge cameras today. Thanks for posting.

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Mar 5, 2019 17:44:41   #
Meadwilliam
 
It’s on my wish list

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Mar 5, 2019 18:11:53   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
I think your a6300, with its fantastic IQ, and a couple good lenses are all you need. I've taken 8 or 9 cruises on small ships with my a6000 and two light lenses (16-70 and 55-210), and found them to be the perfect travel combination for me.

The 16-70 is my walk-around lens, and I pull out the 55-210 only when I need the range, usually for wildlife shots. Alternatively, an 18-135 is light and may be a good choice for renting if you don't want to buy it.

I suggest you go with a great camera that you already know how to use, and you'll come back with lots of good photos to share with us on UHH. Enjoy your trip!

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Mar 5, 2019 19:04:51   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
The High School is still here but now we have one in the valley too. Finally, competition for the sports teams without getting on a ferry.
Wingpilot wrote:
I get that. Haven'td been to Juneau in several years. The Tracy Arm tour is the best when you it the weather right.
I graduated from J-HS, class of '64. My folks lived there for many years. Sadly, they are both gone.
Thanks for the tip, Cam.

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Mar 5, 2019 22:37:59   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
CamB wrote:
The High School is still here but now we have one in the valley too. Finally, competition for the sports teams without getting on a ferry.


Yeah, especially since you may not have a ferry in the near future!!

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Mar 5, 2019 22:38:58   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Yea, there is that.
Wingpilot wrote:
Yeah, especially since you may not have a ferry in the near future!!

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Mar 6, 2019 07:46:53   #
CSIPETE
 
Hi Wingpilot, I also am going on an October cruise, but in the Greek Isles after a two week Croation adventure. Flying from Australia to Venice first. I actually wanted to take my Nikon D4 but my wife cracked a mental. So, I am taking a Sony A6000 which is maybe 5 years old. I only have the two kit lenses, a 16-50 I think, and a 55-210 or similar. I'll probably take a Gorillapod of DSLR size. I think your Sony will do the trick. I am hoping mine will too. It is annoying however to have to change lenses frequently. Anyway have fun and enjoy your cruise. Pete

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Mar 6, 2019 09:41:25   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
I have traveled all over US and the world with no problem with cameras. My present setup is the Canon 80D with the 18-135 lens and it covers all I need, near and far.

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Mar 6, 2019 10:43:39   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
CSIPETE wrote:
Hi Wingpilot, I also am going on an October cruise, but in the Greek Isles after a two week Croation adventure. Flying from Australia to Venice first. I actually wanted to take my Nikon D4 but my wife cracked a mental. So, I am taking a Sony A6000 which is maybe 5 years old. I only have the two kit lenses, a 16-50 I think, and a 55-210 or similar. I'll probably take a Gorillapod of DSLR size. I think your Sony will do the trick. I am hoping mine will too. It is annoying however to have to change lenses frequently. Anyway have fun and enjoy your cruise. Pete
Hi Wingpilot, I also am going on an October cruise... (show quote)


Thanks. My alternative consideration to a compact/pocket sized camera would be to get the Sony 18-135 lens and just use that. With clear image zoom that would give me the equivalent of 18-270. And have a great time on your cruise.

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Mar 6, 2019 11:05:31   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
Wingpilot wrote:
... maybe I'll get either the Sony 18-135 or 18-200, although I understand the Tamron 18-200 in Sony E mount may be a better lens than the Sony one.
Wingpilot,
Sorry, I’m not taking the time to read through all the posts made in this now 5-page thread, but here’s my two cents. I own two Sony a6000 cameras, the 2nd converted to Full Spectrum December 2017. Before purchasing this FS version, I owned the following Sony E-mt APS-C lenses: 16 mm f/2.8; 35 mm f/1.8 OSS; the sloowww 55-210 mm. I purchased Sony's 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 along with the FS camera from Kolarivision, not Sony’s 16-50 mm PZ as the latter is known to have IR hotspots. I brought the two zooms with me to Greece last summer, but hardly used the telephoto.

It wasn’t till last September that I learned of Sony’s 18-135 mm lens, which was released around January 2018. I bought and am quite satisfied with this lens, reviewing images obtained with it, using both a6000 cameras, on my 15” MacBook Pro.

This Sony lens is my default lens on my FS-converted a6000 camera.

I have not tried out the Tamron zoom you mention, so all I can ask you is whether you really need the extra reach of this latter lens?

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Mar 6, 2019 11:14:27   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
lev29 wrote:
Wingpilot,
Sorry, I’m not taking the time to read through all the posts made in this now 5-page thread, but here’s my two cents. I own two Sony a6000 cameras, the 2nd converted to Full Spectrum December 2017. Before purchasing this FS version, I owned the following Sony E-mt APS-C lenses: 16 mm f/2.8; 35 mm f/1.8 OSS; the sloowww 55-210 mm. I purchased Sony's 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 along with the FS camera from Kolarivision, not Sony’s 16-50 mm PZ as the latter is known to have IR hotspots. I brought the two zooms with me to Greece last summer, but hardly used the telephoto.

It wasn’t till last September that I learned of Sony’s 18-135 mm lens, which was released around January 2018. I bought and am quite satisfied with this lens, reviewing images obtained with it, using both a6000 cameras, on my 15” MacBook Pro.

This Sony lens is my default lens on my FS-converted a6000 camera.

I have not tried out the Tamron zoom you mention, so all I can ask you is whether you really need the extra reach of this latter lens?
Wingpilot, br Sorry, I’m not taking the time to r... (show quote)



I think Sony now offeres the 18-135 lens as the kit lens with the A6300, so, like you say, it must be a pretty good lens. And it doesn't break the bank.

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Mar 6, 2019 12:29:47   #
jjanovy Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
On those trips where weight and mobility, as well as control over the photo circumstances, were issues, I took a Canon SX50 with a SX710 as pocket backup (newer versions of both are available). I know that image quality suffers a little bit with that kind of equipment, but the combo is really very flexible. I usually have both those set with the dial on the athlete icon, to minimize auto-focus problems, and keep the digital zoom turned off unless I want and need it. Oh, and I'm actually a Nikon person with both crop and full frame bodies and a suite of lenses, which I take and use when weight is not a problem and I'm in total control of the shooting circumstances.

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Mar 9, 2019 20:44:15   #
Keen
 
Over the years, I have traveled with a Mamiya C-330 TLR system, a Nikon N8008S 35mm SLR system, a Pentax 67 SLR system, and a Nikon D7200 DSLR system< I never worried about camera thieves / muggers. I am badazz enough to deter such. I think mean thoughts....silently imagining myself ripping heads / arms off of passersby, stabbing strangers with a sword, and such. Whether that sends out ESP vibes, or effects my body language, or whatever, it works, The bad boys leave me alone. I wear my Billingham camera bag on my right side, with the sling over my head, and left shoulder. Anyone who grabs my bag, is getting me along with it....and I will not be nice to them. Somehow they sense that...so they do not try me. If you want a small travel camera, consider a Nikon 1 item...a J5, or V3, or such. They are CX ('half inch') format, and use small, lightweight, lenses. With an adaptor, they can also take Nikon F mount lenses for DX, and FX cameras. You can fit the Nikon 1 camera in one coat pocket, with a CX lens attached, and fit an adaptor equipped F mount zoom lens in another coat pocket, without bad boys noticing.

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Mar 10, 2019 00:51:20   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Keen wrote:
Over the years, I have traveled with a Mamiya C-330 TLR system, a Nikon N8008S 35mm SLR system, a Pentax 67 SLR system, and a Nikon D7200 DSLR system< I never worried about camera thieves / muggers. I am badazz enough to deter such. I think mean thoughts....silently imagining myself ripping heads / arms off of passersby, stabbing strangers with a sword, and such. Whether that sends out ESP vibes, or effects my body language, or whatever, it works, The bad boys leave me alone. I wear my Billingham camera bag on my right side, with the sling over my head, and left shoulder. Anyone who grabs my bag, is getting me along with it....and I will not be nice to them. Somehow they sense that...so they do not try me. If you want a small travel camera, consider a Nikon 1 item...a J5, or V3, or such. They are CX ('half inch') format, and use small, lightweight, lenses. With an adaptor, they can also take Nikon F mount lenses for DX, and FX cameras. You can fit the Nikon 1 camera in one coat pocket, with a CX lens attached, and fit an adaptor equipped F mount zoom lens in another coat pocket, without bad boys noticing.
Over the years, I have traveled with a Mamiya C-33... (show quote)


I'm like you, thugs wouldn't be happy tangling with me, either. I'm constantly going over in my mind what I'd do in different scenarios. I think, if I don't purchase a pocket camera, I'll just go with my A6300. I might get an 18-135 or Tamron 18-200 lens for it. That way I won't have to change any lenses.

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