kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA

I thought eliminating the mirror eliminates vibrations.
So then mirrorless cameras are having shutter shock?
I do see it is being corrected by the mfrs.
Was shutter shock a really big concern?

When I use mirror lock-up, I do not
see any shutter shock symptoms of blurry photos.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

What do you mean by "shutter shock"

RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA

Shutter vibration.

kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA

Reading reviews of mirrorless cameras, example the G85 Panasonic has shutter shock. And other cameras.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Any mechanical movement induced some vibration.

Basic Newtonian physics.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

A few months after I got my favorite camera, some reviewers said it suffered from shutter shock. To prove it they took pictures of things like newspaper want ads and enlarged to about 400%. I also have the lens that is supposed to contribute to it the most. I've never been able to duplicate the problem even though I've tried.

It (theoretically) occurs at shutter speeds at around 1/60th or 1/125th but only with mechanical shutter selected. It never occurs when electronic shutter is selected.

There are other advantages to electronic shutter but it can produce rolling shutter effect. When shooting fast moving subjects, mechanical shutter and high shutter speeds are better to freeze the motion anyway.

The camera maker provided a firmware upgrade with a work around. The camera originally came with two shutter choices, mechanical or electronic. Now it has a third, automatic. In automatic it knows what lens is mounted and avoids any troublesome shutter speeds in manual shutter shooting.

In practical use, shooting real subjects, is is a non issue. I've never identified the effect in any image I've shot.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Immediately after the G85, Panasonic cameras had a new shutter that doesn't do it.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

That's one problem with a lot of "proof." It doesn't apply to real world use. Yes, it proves there is some vibration, but they had to enlarge tiny print 400% to show the effect.

It's funny how shutter/mirror vibration affects the image at only certain exposure times. Going slower often negates the effect of vibration. I tried to find articles about that, but no luck.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

As others have said any mechanical movement causes vibrations.
That includes the shutter and levers slapping the aperture open back and forth.

In the real world this is meaningless.
400% magnification is meaningless in the real world. Only the pixel peepers on this site worry about such silly things.
Finally if you are concerned, use your electronic shutter only, leave the aperture wide open, turn off IS, turn off AF, fasten the camera to an anvil on an isolation foundation and hope a train or big truck does not drive by.
Don't worry about it for most all you do.

tomcat

Sigh......"and these were supposed to solve so many problems"..... lol

fetzler Loc: North West PA

I regular photography shutter shock or vibration is not usually an issue. I have done high magnification macros. In this case it is important. On Nikon I move the mirror up 3 sec early. (This is a menu option) On Olympus I use the anti-shock mode. Silent mode might be even better but for Olympus there are significant restrictions when using flash.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Why are you sighing and LOLing? I didn't write that "these" had "problems". I wrote that my favorite camera had been criticized on forums for having an imagined quirk that I couldn't duplicate.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

This may sound a little silly, but is still true. Movement causes movement. If any part of anything moves, then the whole thing moves. It's only a matter of "how much"

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

In the case of Panasonic, my GX8 was the last of a series that used a particular shutter. The next camera released had a shutter that didn't shock. Somehow the shutter movement one way was balanced by something that moved the other way. The GH5 and G9 flagship models do not get accused of having shutter shock.