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All the advice on camera, tripod and lenses I received... Thank you.
Mar 1, 2019 21:34:07   #
hogesinwa Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
 
Many thanks for all the advice received on first the Canon 5D IV, then on the tripod and finally on the lenses.

After all the deliberation and assessing, I pulled the trigger on my rearrangement of gear and bought the Canon 5D IV, a Vanguard AltaPro 264AO, the Canon EF L 28-300 and a Sigma EX 10-22. (the Sigma is 2nd hand and was cheap enough for me to buy just to see how it is)

I will have some later questions on a couple of topics but enough for now as I reorganise my storage space (I like everything to be where it stands alone and can be readily seen. I hate rummaging for stuff)
Thank you all again for your assistance.

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Mar 1, 2019 22:17:48   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
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hogesinwa wrote:
Many thanks for all the advice received on first the Canon 5D IV, then on the tripod and finally on the lenses.

After all the deliberation and assessing, I pulled the trigger on my rearrangement of gear and bought the Canon 5D IV, a Vanguard AltaPro 264AO, the Canon EF L 28-300 and a Sigma EX 10-22. (the Sigma is 2nd hand and was cheap enough for me to buy just to see how it is)

I will have some later questions on a couple of topics but enough for now as I reorganise my storage space (I like everything to be where it stands alone and can be readily seen. I hate rummaging for stuff)
Thank you all again for your assistance.
Many thanks for all the advice received on first t... (show quote)


Congratulations on a world class system, a fine tool that should last you for many years and deliver outstanding results. Of course, you now have no excuses for not delivering (and posting) some fine work 😸.

Cheers

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Mar 2, 2019 00:04:41   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
hogesinwa wrote:
Many thanks for all the advice received on first the Canon 5D IV, then on the tripod and finally on the lenses.

After all the deliberation and assessing, I pulled the trigger on my rearrangement of gear and bought the Canon 5D IV, a Vanguard AltaPro 264AO, the Canon EF L 28-300 and a Sigma EX 10-22. (the Sigma is 2nd hand and was cheap enough for me to buy just to see how it is)

I will have some later questions on a couple of topics but enough for now as I reorganise my storage space (I like everything to be where it stands alone and can be readily seen. I hate rummaging for stuff)
Thank you all again for your assistance.
Many thanks for all the advice received on first t... (show quote)


The Sigma is a crop frame lens and the 28-300 is a very expensive/heavy niche lens .......just sayn'

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Mar 2, 2019 02:03:48   #
hogesinwa Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
 
imagemeister wrote:
The Sigma is a crop frame lens and the 28-300 is a very expensive/heavy niche lens .......just sayn'


Thank you for that. Have advised the seller that since it was not advertised as a DC, if it is a DC I want the transaction voided. Many on eBay are listed as EX DC. This one was listed as EX for an EF mount. His problem if it's misrepresented and I'll go get another. Thanks for the heads up. I simply assumed it was a FF version of that lens.

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Mar 2, 2019 07:11:22   #
queencitysanta Loc: Charlotte, North Carolina
 
Check woth MT Shooter, Carter's Camera Cottage, https://www.cameracottage.com/tripods He has been on this sight quite a while Take Carter's Advice to the bank

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Mar 2, 2019 14:59:49   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
hogesinwa wrote:
Many thanks for all the advice received on first the Canon 5D IV, then on the tripod and finally on the lenses.

After all the deliberation and assessing, I pulled the trigger on my rearrangement of gear and bought the Canon 5D IV, a Vanguard AltaPro 264AO, the Canon EF L 28-300 and a Sigma EX 10-22. (the Sigma is 2nd hand and was cheap enough for me to buy just to see how it is)

I will have some later questions on a couple of topics but enough for now as I reorganise my storage space (I like everything to be where it stands alone and can be readily seen. I hate rummaging for stuff)
Thank you all again for your assistance.
Many thanks for all the advice received on first t... (show quote)


I'm not sure who advised you, but they appear to have steered you wrong...

Sigma has never made a 10-22mm lens. Canon has made a 10-22mm for some years. Sigma has made several different 10-20mm lenses.

HOWEVER, these are "EF-S" and "DC" lenses for use on "crop sensor" cameras.

Canon 5D Mark IV is a full frame camera and requires full frame lenses (Canon EF, Sigma DG, etc.)

A Canon 10-22mm will not even fit onto the 5D-series cameras. The lens uses a modified EF-S mount designed to prevent that.

Sigma 10-20mm DC will fit, but will vignette very heavily and might interfere with the mirror movement in the camera and cause damage to the camera. Sigma has never made a DG version 10-20mm. They have all been DC "crop cameras only".

Ultra wide zooms I would recommend for use on Canon 5DIV are:

- Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L USM... the widest of all.... $2699.
- Sigma DG 12-24mm f/4 Art... also super wide... $1599.
- Sigma DG 14-24mm f/2.8 Art... $1299.
- Tamron SP 15-30mm f/2.8 G2... $1299.
- Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM.... $999.
- Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM III.... $1999.

Lower priced, though not as sharp...
- Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8... $499.
- Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM... $749.
- Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4... $599
- Tokina 17-35mm f/4... $429.

Some of the above lenses have convex front elements that prevent using standard filters on them. Oversize filters and special holders may be available, but are costly and bulky.

Prices are U.S. $ for new... probably can find some of these for less used. Be cautious buying off eBay. I'd only consider sellers with lots of positive feedback and a reasonable return policy.

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Mar 2, 2019 21:46:27   #
hogesinwa Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I'm not sure who advised you, but they appear to have steered you wrong...

Sigma has never made a 10-22mm lens. Canon has made a 10-22mm for some years. Sigma has made several different 10-20mm lenses.

HOWEVER, these are "EF-S" and "DC" lenses for use on "crop sensor" cameras.

Canon 5D Mark IV is a full frame camera and requires full frame lenses (Canon EF, Sigma DG, etc.)

A Canon 10-22mm will not even fit onto the 5D-series cameras. The lens uses a modified EF-S mount designed to prevent that.

Sigma 10-20mm DC will fit, but will vignette very heavily and might interfere with the mirror movement in the camera and cause damage to the camera. Sigma has never made a DG version 10-20mm. They have all been DC "crop cameras only".

Ultra wide zooms I would recommend for use on Canon 5DIV are:

- Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L USM... the widest of all.... $2699.
- Sigma DG 12-24mm f/4 Art... also super wide... $1599.
- Sigma DG 14-24mm f/2.8 Art... $1299.
- Tamron SP 15-30mm f/2.8 G2... $1299.
- Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM.... $999.
- Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM III.... $1999.

Lower priced, though not as sharp...
- Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8... $499.
- Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM... $749.
- Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4... $599
- Tokina 17-35mm f/4... $429.

Some of the above lenses have convex front elements that prevent using standard filters on them. Oversize filters and special holders may be available, but are costly and bulky.

Prices are U.S. $ for new... probably can find some of these for less used. Be cautious buying off eBay. I'd only consider sellers with lots of positive feedback and a reasonable return policy.
I'm not sure who advised you, but they appear to h... (show quote)


Thanks for all that. The Sigma is indeed a 10-20 but has been misrepresented on eBay as NOT a DC, and for EF. I am aware of the difference between DG and DC, between EF and EF-S and Tamron's Di 1 and Di II lenses.
I have another APS-C camera, a 7DmkII and the Sigma would fit that but I already have a Tamron 10-24 for that camera.
I have instructed the eBay seller to void this Sigma transaction as he/she/they have misrepresented the lens as being for full-frame when I am being reliably informed it cannot be. Previously I thought it might be but as you have pointed out, Sigma have never made a FF version.
Provided that a lens is correctly advertised, I am able to select correctly - it is only when it is not labelled accurately.

Your list of recommendeds is interesting and will occupy me for a while. Since I travel extensively I often find my wide-angle sitting on the front for days, particularly in older cities with narrow streets. I spent 6 years in the Med on my boat and photographing old stuff is my main interest (with the odd Geocache added in).

The Canon sells for about $3200 AUD here, so around the same as your price. The Sigma DG at half the price is attractive, too.

Back to work, and thanks for the information. BTW, I just got a pop-up on the side of my screen that the seller has responded to me re the mis-labelled Sigma.

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