Arsenal and other AI-based camera assistance
Feb 28, 2019 00:45:37 #
Has anyone ever tried Arsenal, an artificial intelligence-based camera assistance? From what I have read, I'd probably find it useful in controlling remotely my camera functions (shutter, aperture, Iso) using my IPhone especially at night. But is that worth $175? It seems to me that the AI function is just an advanced version of Program or Auto mode. I never use program mode. If I want to check initial exposure, I use my Sekonic light meter then make adjustments manually. Am I too harsh in my judgment considering I have no hands on experience with it? I am curious what one who has actually used it think. I suspect camera manufacturers will start incorporating it in their cameras in not too distant future. They already have it in primitive forms in their program mode and presets. And I think smart phone cameras are more advanced in using AI to compensate for their small sensors.
Feb 28, 2019 05:26:31 #
Do a search for Arsenal and you will come up with numerous topics on this device. Personally I have not used it and would rather depend on myself setting the camera and during a cable release or remote to trigger the shutter.
Feb 28, 2019 05:59:52 #
I recall seeing the Sony ... IPhone control. The camera had more functions remote than on the camera's screen.
https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/disoft/int/playmemories-mobile/en/operation/dsc_remote_ios.html
https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/disoft/int/playmemories-mobile/en/operation/dsc_remote_ios.html
Feb 28, 2019 11:01:48 #
Applying AI to photography is happening. I don't know how exactly to define "IA", but my cameras have "iA" modes and I'm fascinated by how good they are. I also enjoy how Adobe is putting IA into their software.
We won't stop IA from marching into photography. We will divide over for and against.
I would be tempted to buy an Arsenal if they had one for my M4/3 cameras.
https://witharsenal.com/
We won't stop IA from marching into photography. We will divide over for and against.
I would be tempted to buy an Arsenal if they had one for my M4/3 cameras.
https://witharsenal.com/
Mar 1, 2019 08:17:26 #
Lots of questions about Arsenal, but not a lot of personal comments about actually using it.
Mar 1, 2019 10:21:46 #
Mine is being delivered today. I will try to report on it after I have used it and gotten used to it.
Mar 1, 2019 10:38:13 #
gmsatty wrote:
Mine is being delivered today. I will try to report on it after I have used it and gotten used to it.
Wonderful! I'm looking forward to reading what you think!
Mar 1, 2019 11:01:13 #
noeT wrote:
Has anyone ever tried Arsenal, an artificial intel... (show quote)
I am not a fan of the AI part of these products as I think they lead to "average" photos. However, Arsenal itself is reported to have a bunch of other features that make it interesting, like focus stacking control. Is it worth $175? Not to me, but I might keep my eye out for a used or refurbished model.
Mar 1, 2019 12:28:14 #
I did get it for 150 at the "pre" sale price. Since I have a vision problem, I think it might help me.
Mar 1, 2019 18:05:14 #
I just went to have a look on the web and lots of people were unhappy. I'd like to see a happy review, as it sounds interesting.
Mar 1, 2019 18:43:26 #
I wouldn't have one if they paid me. I'll use my own intelligence to make a photograph, not some artificial intelligence.
The next thing you know, someone will build a camera mount for a Roomba. Couple that with Arsenal and one won't even need to leave the house to "take good photos".
---Bob
The next thing you know, someone will build a camera mount for a Roomba. Couple that with Arsenal and one won't even need to leave the house to "take good photos".
---Bob
noeT wrote:
Has anyone ever tried Arsenal, an artificial intel... (show quote)
Mar 1, 2019 19:09:27 #
Hope yours arrives today
I have had one on order (and paid for) for several months now but keep getting told that they are having "issues"
Were are you and how long ago did you order yours?
I have had one on order (and paid for) for several months now but keep getting told that they are having "issues"
Were are you and how long ago did you order yours?
Mar 1, 2019 20:24:09 #
I've had Arsenal for a couple of weeks and, while it doesn't provide the magic suggested in the promotional videos, it has certainly improved my photos. I've been a musician for over 50 years and an award-winning amateur photographer for most of my adult life, and I've learned that one needs master the technology of a medium before one can use it to create art: I find Arsenal to be a useful tool.
Mar 1, 2019 22:19:52 #
awenderoff wrote:
I've had Arsenal for a couple of weeks and, while it doesn't provide the magic suggested in the promotional videos, it has certainly improved my photos. I've been a musician for over 50 years and an award-winning amateur photographer for most of my adult life, and I've learned that one needs master the technology of a medium before one can use it to create art: I find Arsenal to be a useful tool.
This is encouraging!
Mar 2, 2019 13:01:29 #
I ordered mine after the first of the year, so it took about two months. Originally they said it would come in late January, then early February. It was shipped on Feb 15, by DHL from Asia.
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