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Feb 27, 2019 06:56:13   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
I wouldn't mind owning a Leica just to say I have one. I am quite satisfied, however with my DSLR cameras. I bought them used for less than a hundred bucks and they take nice photos. I ain't got the money for high end cameras. Let rich folks put out that kind of money. I don't envy them their wealth. I'm happy and that is what counts.

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Feb 27, 2019 07:06:11   #
BJW
 
Flash Gordon wrote:
Most of the cameras discussed on this forum are Nikon, Canon, Sony and others. I don’t recall any mention of the Leica brand. The cost of Leica’s seem to be comparable to the heigher end Nikon, Canon, Sony and others. I’m curious. Do any of the UHH members have and/or use the Leica brand? If so, why or why not. Is it the cost compared with other brands? Is it features compared with other brands? What say the group?
Flash Gordon
Punta Gorda, FL


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i shoot street photography with a Leica Q because it is a delight to use and the images are very satisfying to my taste. It’s a delight because of its simplicity and reliability. It’s a camera first, with appropriate helpful technological innovations. Unlike my 3 other (non-Leica) cameras which are technology powerhouses first, containing deep, complicated menus and sub-menus much of which I choose not to use, but once you get past the computer like features, they also serve as cameras for purposes other than street photography. But, If I were to sell or trade any of my cameras, my Leica Q would be the last. There are many excellent cameras which serve as splendid photography tools for different genres, and I accept the limitations of each, but there’s something special about my Leica Q.

Simple; I like it.

BJW

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Feb 27, 2019 07:11:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
When I'm out driving, I see lots of Hondas, Fords, and Chevies. I rarely see Rolls Royces - except on weekends when the "City People" come up. All brands get the job done, but some are more expensive and more "show-offy."

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Feb 27, 2019 07:12:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bigmike1 wrote:
I ain't got the money for high end cameras.


There's a big difference between "high end" and "superior."

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Feb 27, 2019 07:16:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Harry0 wrote:
We tend to squish history into a wibbly wobbly ball, and point at pieces.
Up to 40 years ago, You could lump Hasselblad, Leica and Rolex into the same group. Meticulous engineering, exquisite quality and absolute quality control made a big difference. A lot of people who couldn't afford a Leica bought an adapter and a Leica lens. In the days when many lenses had paper strips on their flanges to get them parallel to the film plane, Leicas were always right. The focusing was exact and their settings were accurate, in the days when "fudge factor" was a common term. The cameras were very good, the lenses were better.
Today: Cadillac is just another Chevy. Discounting a red dot, a few letters and a fancy font, is there any actual picture quality differences betwixt that Leica and Panasonic? For some people, owning a Leica is basking in the well being of owning a perceived precision machine of historical quality. For others, it's basking in the perceived impression when watching other people watch them with a Leica.
Sometimes it's like comparing apples, oranges and horsehoes. Sensors are not film. Before, I'd buy a box of 35mm film, shoot it thru a series of cameras, and I could compare like-to-like. Now, am I comparing a 2yr old vs 10yr old tech APS sensors, to a 5yr old FF? I never thought about focus points, megapixels, AA filters, menu options, scene modes, pixel density or raw vs jpg when I took out my '60s and '70s Nikons. Nor did my buddy with his Leica III.
Do you want an excellent Leica film camera? Buy a Leica rangefinder.
Do you want an excellent Leica digital camera? Buy the Panasonic.
We tend to squish history into a wibbly wobbly bal... (show quote)


I like some of your words: meticulous, exquisite, absolute, and especially "perceived."

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Feb 27, 2019 07:17:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rpavich wrote:
...what is the shooting experience like?


That's emotional, and I don't pay for emotion.

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Feb 27, 2019 07:22:46   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Julian wrote:
We buy Ferrari automobiles, Rolex watches, Mont Blanc pens... and Leica cameras because we can. Can’t think of another reason.😀


I can add a reason. After ten years, your Ferrari, Rolex, and Mont Blanc can be sold for what you paid for them and most times sold for a profit.

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Feb 27, 2019 07:35:42   #
John Howard Loc: SW Florida and Blue Ridge Mountains of NC.
 
I have a M240 and a few lenses. Love the glass. Found the manual focus rangefinder too difficult for anything moving. Tried it for landscape and could not solve the vibration problem. Even the release button is clunky. You must push it hard which adds to camera movement even with the cable release. Probably ok if you shoot like Cartier Bresson who never took a sharp photo (sorry cause I do like his work). Just ordered an adapter to use the lenses on my Z7.

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Feb 27, 2019 07:44:30   #
1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA
 
IDguy wrote:
The ones I see are many times the cost of the other top models from competitors. And they appear to have less features. They seem to me to be mostly a status symbol.

A Timex shows the same time as a Rolex.


"fewer features" not "less" Those are not interchangeable words.

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Feb 27, 2019 07:46:08   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When I'm out driving, I see lots of Hondas, Fords, and Chevies. I rarely see Rolls Royces - except on weekends when the "City People" come up. All brands get the job done, but some are more expensive and more "show-offy."


If you made money from your car, would it make a difference what you buy? When your paid for what you do, do carpenters by a craftsman or Makita? Is Makita "show-offy" or is it a reliable tool that will stand up to daily professional use?
If you make a living from what you do then you tend to buy what will last and what gives you professional results. Sometimes PRICE matters.

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Feb 27, 2019 07:48:36   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
I still have my Leica 111c, unused for six months, but the 5 lenses are being used with adapter on my Sony Digital body. Keeping alive the Leica heritage.

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Feb 27, 2019 07:54:32   #
SonyBug
 
rocar7 wrote:
But not with the same style!


You can get more arm candy with an Oyster than a Timex...

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Feb 27, 2019 07:58:57   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Flash Gordon wrote:
Most of the cameras discussed on this forum are Nikon, Canon, Sony and others. I don’t recall any mention of the Leica brand. The cost of Leica’s seem to be comparable to the heigher end Nikon, Canon, Sony and others. I’m curious. Do any of the UHH members have and/or use the Leica brand? If so, why or why not. Is it the cost compared with other brands? Is it features compared with other brands? What say the group?
Flash Gordon
Punta Gorda, FL


Primarily cost. Second they lack lenses that are useful to me for what I like to do.

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Feb 27, 2019 09:06:54   #
markie1425 Loc: Bryn Mawr, PA
 
IDguy wrote:
The ones I see are many times the cost of the other top models from competitors. And they appear to have less features. They seem to me to be mostly a status symbol.

A Timex shows the same time as a Rolex.


My Lumix DMC-LX100 is identical to the Leica D-Lux, save for that prestigious RED DOT. Same lens, same great performance, same everything, except that Leica charges a $400-or-so premium for displaying their RED DOT.

Point being is that the Lumix has been widely acclaimed for its small size and large sensor combination. Is it a Leica or a Lumix? Who cares? It nicely fits into a niche that some people need.



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Feb 27, 2019 09:13:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
markie1425 wrote:
My Lumix DMC-LX100 is identical to the Leica D-Lux, save for that prestigious RED DOT. Same lens, same great performance, same everything, except that Leica charges a $400-or-so premium for displaying their RED DOT.

Point being is that the Lumix has been widely acclaimed for its small size and large sensor combination. Is it a Leica or a Lumix? Who cares? It nicely fits into a niche that some people need.


Like Leicas used to be made by Minolta and you could get the same performance with the Minolts badge on the camera.

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