2 x 2 lenses compared, vastly different prices
Feb 26, 2019 09:16:06 #
hogesinwa
Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
I am now in a position to go ahead with my next camera buy. I also want two lenses to go with it.
I have been comparing a Sigma 10-20 with a Canon 11-24 in one test and a Tamron 28-300 with a Canon 28-300 in another test.
In #1, the price of the Sigma is around $500 in Oz. The Canon is around $3299, or more than 6 times the cost.
In #2, the Tamron is about $480 and the Canon is $3,448, again about 6 times, or more, the cost.
Especially in #2, where the Tamron is shorter and lighter, can anyone tell me what it is I am missing that these Canon lenses are providing for the price? Surely I must not be seeing why this differential exists?
I have been comparing a Sigma 10-20 with a Canon 11-24 in one test and a Tamron 28-300 with a Canon 28-300 in another test.
In #1, the price of the Sigma is around $500 in Oz. The Canon is around $3299, or more than 6 times the cost.
In #2, the Tamron is about $480 and the Canon is $3,448, again about 6 times, or more, the cost.
Especially in #2, where the Tamron is shorter and lighter, can anyone tell me what it is I am missing that these Canon lenses are providing for the price? Surely I must not be seeing why this differential exists?
Feb 26, 2019 09:39:29 #
hogesinwa wrote:
I am now in a position to go ahead with my next ca... (show quote)
Now take a look at and compare warranties between them.
Feb 26, 2019 09:44:51 #
The answer is cachet. You can be certain that the Canon lenses are not six times as sharp as the Sigma or the Tamron. Canon knows that some people will always buy their lenses, regardless of the price and so, jack up the cost accordingly. I mean, why do some people buy a $20,000.00 Rolex watch when a$50.00 Casio will get them to the school to pick up the kids at the same time?
Feb 26, 2019 09:51:14 #
Pablo8
Loc: Nottingham UK.
hogesinwa wrote:
I am now in a position to go ahead with my next ca... (show quote)
I am happy using my Sigma 10~20, on Nikon Cameras.
Feb 26, 2019 10:02:42 #
hogesinwa wrote:
I am now in a position to go ahead with my next ca... (show quote)
I believe your prices are a bit off. B&H sells the Tamron 28-300 for $699 and the Canon L series lens for $2449, so the ratio is more like 3.5:1. A quick look at the remainder of the specifications, quality and testing results should make it clear why the Canon is more expensive. Is it 3.5x as good? Depends on what you measure, but the price/performance curve has never been linear for any high-end products, whether cars, optics, guns, watches or audio equipment - you often pay 3x for a 50% max improvement in performance or quality. The question is: is it worth it to YOU?
Feb 26, 2019 10:05:01 #
TriX wrote:
I believe your prices are a bit off. B&H sells... (show quote)
The OP is in Australia, pricing there is very different than here.
Feb 26, 2019 10:11:46 #
MT Shooter wrote:
The OP is in Australia, pricing there is very different than here.
Got it, but is the ratio that different?
Feb 26, 2019 10:14:38 #
TriX wrote:
Got it, but is the ratio that different?
If he quoted current pricing, I guess it could be. I have seen some strange pricing from there.
Feb 26, 2019 10:21:19 #
hogesinwa
Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
MT Shooter wrote:
If he quoted current pricing, I guess it could be. I have seen some strange pricing from there.
they were the cheap versions off eBay Australia. From retail camera stores, much worse.
Feb 26, 2019 10:22:50 #
The big differences are brand name and tolerances. An OEM lens is specifically made for the camera of that company, not adapted. The value of the lens will hold when time comes to sell it.
Optically speaking we get surprises and many times the independent lens is as good or better than the OEM. Some independent lenses have had their issues in the past like incompatibilities but most of those have been fixed. Sigma and Tamron are producing excellent optics.
I prefer OEM lenses but at times a lens from an independent company is a better buy and I have nothing against independent lenses. Your pocket should tell you exactly what to do.
Optically speaking we get surprises and many times the independent lens is as good or better than the OEM. Some independent lenses have had their issues in the past like incompatibilities but most of those have been fixed. Sigma and Tamron are producing excellent optics.
I prefer OEM lenses but at times a lens from an independent company is a better buy and I have nothing against independent lenses. Your pocket should tell you exactly what to do.
Feb 26, 2019 10:29:51 #
In one you are comparing an APS-C lens against a full frame. Apples v Oranges. In both cases the Canon is faster at the long end of the ranges and these two Canons hold fast apertures further through the range. The Tamron 28-300, however is a good solid lens at its price point despite reported serious vignetting a wide angles (but if you are shooting ASP-C that should not be a big issue.)
Feb 26, 2019 18:52:34 #
hogesinwa
Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
dsmeltz wrote:
In one you are comparing an APS-C lens against a full frame. Apples v Oranges. In both cases the Canon is faster at the long end of the ranges and these two Canons hold fast apertures further through the range. The Tamron 28-300, however is a good solid lens at its price point despite reported serious vignetting a wide angles (but if you are shooting ASP-C that should not be a big issue.)
? Ive made an error then - I thought they were all full-frame. Will go and recheck. I have several APS-C lenses that won't work on this new camera so I wad specifically researching full frame.
Feb 27, 2019 00:11:00 #
Assuming the Sigma is the Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM, this lens will mount to a Canon full-frame camera, but it is designed for a cropped sensor body. The Canon lens you picked for comparison was Canon's unique widest-angle L-series zoom.
Some more modest wide-angle options to consider:
EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM
EF 17-40mm f/4L USM
For the superzoom, you've again picked a unique L-series zoom, the only Canon model covering a range as wide as 28-300. If interested in this range in one lens, consider the third-party options or look at Canon lenses with a more modest zoom range.
The EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM is a go-to lens of me and used much more frequently than the 24-105 zoom. Rather than an all-in-one superzoom, you might look at a 3 lens approach with the excellent options of the EF 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM. Or, skip the middle zoom and just cover that range with a cheap and sharp EF 50 f/1.8.
Some more modest wide-angle options to consider:
EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM
EF 17-40mm f/4L USM
For the superzoom, you've again picked a unique L-series zoom, the only Canon model covering a range as wide as 28-300. If interested in this range in one lens, consider the third-party options or look at Canon lenses with a more modest zoom range.
The EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM is a go-to lens of me and used much more frequently than the 24-105 zoom. Rather than an all-in-one superzoom, you might look at a 3 lens approach with the excellent options of the EF 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM. Or, skip the middle zoom and just cover that range with a cheap and sharp EF 50 f/1.8.
Feb 27, 2019 03:39:17 #
hogesinwa
Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
Thank you for that. I thought i was looking at the DG, not the DC.
I like the wide range zoom because I can then travel with only 2 lenses. My travel is active so i like as little as possible on me. I will absorb your suggestions and consider in detail. Thank you.
I like the wide range zoom because I can then travel with only 2 lenses. My travel is active so i like as little as possible on me. I will absorb your suggestions and consider in detail. Thank you.
Feb 27, 2019 06:56:03 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
hogesinwa wrote:
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The choice always comes down to you and what you want. I do find it interesting that the allure for Tamron is always PRICE. Folks almost never mention quality construction, resale price, customer service, servicing reputation, lenses out of alignment and having to be sent back to align, tolerances over time, customer ratings, etc. etc.
Folks who buy Tamron ALWAYS mention how much money they saved, they never mention QUALITY, reliability over time, resale value, or anything that truly matters. It is just PRICE, PRICE, PRICE.
Interesting and sad.
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