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Sony RX10M4's zoom lens at 600 mm (35 equiv)
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Feb 22, 2019 16:34:40   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
neilds37 wrote:
I finally ran into a weakness of the Sony that will keep the Fuji working a bit longer. The hot shoe of the Sony will restrict the shutter to 1/100 with a speedlite, whereas Fuji's keeps on through the shutters 1/4000 range. This seems quite odd to me and hoping a firmware update could, and will, fix it.


The Sony will fire a flash at 1/2000 if you use F8 or smaller, and 1/1000 if you use larger than F8 - but you must have the shutter type set to mechanical. I just tried it.

There is supposed to be a TTL/HSS solution that syncs at shorter shutter speeds, but I can't find where I read about it. The mfgr may be Godox, but I can't be certain.

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Feb 22, 2019 17:07:09   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
Gene51 wrote:
The Sony will fire a flash at 1/2000 if you use F8 or smaller, and 1/1000 if you use larger than F8 - but you must have the shutter type set to mechanical. I just tried it.

There is supposed to be a TTL/HSS solution that syncs at shorter shutter speeds, but I can't find where I read about it. The mfgr may be Godox, but I can't be certain.


Thanks Gene. I missed the mechanical shutter part.

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Feb 22, 2019 18:41:51   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
neilds37 wrote:
Boarded the Victoria, B.C. to Port Angeles, WA ferry, took a seat in the forward section of the passenger deck and saw the statue of George Vancouver on top of the Government Building visible over the top of the intervening building. Took a shot at 600 mm, hand-held, enlarged it in-camera, and was surprised at the result. Took another shot at 48 mm to show just how far away it was. I thought there might be a few on UHH interested in the result.

Surprised at the fringing in the 600mm images! The result of shooting through a window??

I have both a RX10 III & IV; my grab 'n go cameras.

bwa

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Feb 22, 2019 18:48:58   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
And don't be too worried about pushing the ISO. It'll do a decent job at ISO6400-12800. Much easier to handle a bit of noise than it is motion blur!!

bwa

Heron - 600mm, 1/320sec., f/4, ISO 6400
Heron  - 600mm, 1/320sec., f/4, ISO 6400...
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Feb 23, 2019 00:08:36   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
bwana wrote:
Surprised at the fringing in the 600mm images! The result of shooting through a window??

I have both a RX10 III & IV; my grab 'n go cameras.

bwa


Through the front window (tinted) of the ferry, as well as hand-held. I'm not used to using high ISO as the Fuji was quite sensitive to it. Glad to know I can use it.

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Feb 23, 2019 03:48:11   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
neilds37 wrote:
Through the front window (tinted) of the ferry, as well as hand-held. I'm not used to using high ISO as the Fuji was quite sensitive to it. Glad to know I can use it.

Higher ISO on the RX10 III & IV is not as good as that on the A7S or A7R II but quite usable.

The RX10 III & IV are both really fun cameras! However, I do miss Camera Apps on the RX10 IV. Not too sure why Sony dropped this feature on the IV??

bwa

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Feb 23, 2019 14:25:20   #
markwilliam1
 
I’m not sure but I thought the RX10 M4 used the same lens as the M3 but with a different sensor and processing? The difference in performance between the two is significant as far as tracking BIF and sports. I think when they lump the M3 and M4 together can be misleading? They seem to be two different cameras now? Thoughts?
bwana wrote:
Higher ISO on the RX10 III & IV is not as good as that on the A7S or A7R II but quite usable.

The RX10 III & IV are both really fun cameras! However, I do miss Camera Apps on the RX10 IV. Not too sure why Sony dropped this feature on the IV??

bwa

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Feb 23, 2019 15:00:30   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
I’m not sure but I thought the RX10 M4 used the same lens as the M3 but with a different sensor and processing? The difference in performance between the two is significant as far as tracking BIF and sports. I think when they lump the M3 and M4 together can be misleading? They seem to be two different cameras now? Thoughts?

The two cameras behave almost identically except for the IV's much faster autofocus and its lack of the Camera Apps feature. Image size is identical off both. Photosite size is the same. Image quality and ISO performance is the same. The excellent 24-600mm zoom on the two cameras is interchangeable, i.e.: the same.

There are differences in the menu systems on the two cameras. I prefer the IV's menu system and customization.

The liveview screen on the IV is slightly larger and partially touch screen which is quite nice for picking a focus point. Other than that the two cameras look identical on the outside; same buttons, dials, etc.

The IV is definitely best for fast action sports and BIF, although I've shot both with the III and IV.

I had my III converted to full spectrum for astro-imaging and IR photography; however, the lens gives a hot spot when shooting IR; takes a fair bit of postprocessing to overcome!

They're both great cameras!

bwa

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Feb 23, 2019 17:11:55   #
markwilliam1
 
Thanks! I bought the M4 for its tracking abilities which out performs the M3 by a significant margin by the reviews I have read. I haven’t compared both personally I only have the M4. The M4 seems to be a significant upgrade in regards to tracking BIF? Worth the extra $$? For me Yes!

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Feb 23, 2019 17:13:27   #
markwilliam1
 
Aren’t the Sensors different between the M3 and M4?

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Feb 23, 2019 19:09:05   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
Aren’t the Sensors different between the M3 and M4?

See https://cameradecision.com/compare/Sony-Cyber-shot-DSC-RX10-III-vs-Sony-Cyber-shot-DSC-RX10-IV

Same sensor with more focus points in IV.

bwa

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Feb 23, 2019 19:10:22   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
Thanks! I bought the M4 for its tracking abilities which out performs the M3 by a significant margin by the reviews I have read. I haven’t compared both personally I only have the M4. The M4 seems to be a significant upgrade in regards to tracking BIF? Worth the extra $$? For me Yes!

Me too! But the III is a great backup in case I drop the IV in a lake or river

bwa

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Feb 23, 2019 19:37:06   #
markwilliam1
 
I believe it is an updated sensor that accounts for it’s amazing focusing compared to the M3. New front LSI chip.

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