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Do Heavier (metal) lenses - provide GREATER stability, or do they actually create instability?
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Feb 20, 2019 16:18:25   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Not if you have protection like these guys.

A well designed hood doesn't inhibit light gathering.
In daylight, even when it is raining, there is usually plenty of light around to capture the action.
This is from personal experience.

Have you ever photographed in the rain?


I disagree with you, Richard … on an overcast day - a hand hovering over the front of the lens - will be all the protection you will need, and this won't cut off light as much as long hood will ….

Yes, of course, I have. I usually use my Pentax, which is weather-protected … or my Nikon D7100 ….

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Feb 20, 2019 16:21:38   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Yes, the Wizard of Oz reference is new. And yes, just that alone goes a long way toward giving this a folksy little touch and spontaneous feel. When doing market research it is important to see if consumer attitudes have changed over time, of course, so you are obligated to ask the same question repeatedly. Disguising what you are doing is important. But it is, as you say, an age old question that is of interest to people, so I will play along.

Given the choice of Dorothy, lions, scarecrows, tin men, and yellow bricks, I am going to say that the yellow bricks are the least likely to blow away in the wind.

Jan 29, 2018:
It's an age-old argument, isn't it - do heavy lenses (and cams) actually create stability, or do they bring their own kind of instability?

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-510655-1.html

Feb 20, 2019:
Do Heavier (metal) lenses - provide GREATER stability, or do they actually create instability?
It's an age-old argument, isn't it?

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-579468-1.html

If it walks like a duck...

Mike
Yes, the Wizard of Oz reference is new. And yes, ... (show quote)


Which is why I prefaced them both, Mike - with "It's an age-old argument, isn't it?" ....

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Feb 20, 2019 16:23:23   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
LWW wrote:
Is the D7500 plastic?

One more reason I like my metal framed D7200.


It sure is, LWW … no metal in THAT one, at all … the whole thing's plastic!!!!

Some say, though - it doesn't feel like it ….

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Feb 20, 2019 16:37:27   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Chris T wrote:
It sure is, LWW … no metal in THAT one, at all … the whole thing's plastic!!!!

Some say, though - it doesn't feel like it ….


I held one in the store, the weight seemed pretty close, but the lack of second card and the lack of being able to meter with AIS glass and the lack of an OEM vertical grip disqualified it for me.

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Feb 20, 2019 16:39:07   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Chris T wrote:
I disagree with you, Richard … on an overcast day - a hand hovering over the front of the lens - will be all the protection you will need, and this won't cut off light as much as long hood will ….

Yes, of course, I have. I usually use my Pentax, which is weather-protected … or my Nikon D7100 ….


A hand hovering over a lens is a hand not available to balance the setup with ... and I’ve never used a lens hood as long as my hand is wide.

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Feb 20, 2019 16:45:05   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
I disagree with you, Richard … on an overcast day - a hand hovering over the front of the lens - will be all the protection you will need, and this won't cut off light as much as long hood will ….

Yes, of course, I have. I usually use my Pentax, which is weather-protected … or my Nikon D7100 ….


Any images to show?

Here's one of mine. I was using a 150-500 lens and a monopod.
I prefer to use my hands to support (or steady) the camera as I feel shooting one handed, especially with a long lens, doesn't help with stability (see what this pro is doing).
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1/320 @ f10 and ISO 400 F=267mm
1/320 @ f10 and ISO 400 F=267mm...
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Feb 20, 2019 16:59:54   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
LWW wrote:
I held one in the store, the weight seemed pretty close, but the lack of second card and the lack of being able to meter with AIS glass and the lack of an OEM vertical grip disqualified it for me.


Yes, there are a few things omitted from the D7200, LWW - however, the later model features a Tilting Touch-Screen, first of all, plus uses the same exact 20MP sensor in the D500, and one which is also similar - in many ways - to the one on the Pro model Nikon - the D5 - resulting in a much better and faster throughput, and well deserving of all the awards and honors it's accumulated since its introduction. ….

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Feb 20, 2019 17:02:35   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
LWW wrote:
A hand hovering over a lens is a hand not available to balance the setup with ... and I’ve never used a lens hood as long as my hand is wide.


The lens on my Tokina 80-400 was about half the length of the barrel … no idea WHY, though, LWW …

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Feb 20, 2019 17:07:04   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Any images to show?

Here's one of mine. I was using a 150-500 lens and a monopod.
I prefer to use my hands to support (or steady) the camera as I feel shooting one handed, especially with a long lens, doesn't help with stability (see what this pro is doing).
.


Neat, Richard … handsome looking Go-Kart, too … what's that - a Bentley grill on the front?

That guy in the bottom shot looks like he's covering the front of the lens to keep the rain off - huh?

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Feb 20, 2019 17:17:27   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Chris T wrote:
Well, Richard ... I'm pretty sure most of the Topics I've posted of late, were done by me - in another way - a year ago. But, that doesn't make them any less germane, today. I'm pretty sure I've never used the Wizard of Oz analogy, before, and that - alone - makes this post a little different than ones I may've done in the past. I am concerned about the stability issue, and I'm sure it matters to a few other readers, here, too. So, I don't think it matters, if this subject (or any other, for that matter) is returned to - sometime, later.
Well, Richard ... I'm pretty sure most of the Topi... (show quote)


They are no more germane today than they were a year ago - unnecessarily redundant as well. . . but that seems to be how you roll - Just sayin', C

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Feb 20, 2019 17:25:26   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
Neat, Richard … handsome looking Go-Kart, too … what's that - a Bentley grill on the front?

That guy in the bottom shot looks like he's covering the front of the lens to keep the rain off - huh?


Incorrect on all counts.

That's a Riley in front and they are not go carts.
Not raining (yet). He is steadying the lens - beside there is a lens hood attached.

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Feb 20, 2019 17:55:59   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Gene51 wrote:
They are no more germane today than they were a year ago - unnecessarily redundant as well. . . but that seems to be how you roll - Just sayin', C


I hadn't, actually, started out to be redundant. It was Richard who pointed out I'd done this post, or one like it, before. But, the one before had a different slant, than this one. No matter, it's up, now, and lenses have been introduced since - like the Nikkor 200-500 - an all-plastic lens - which, never-the-less, has gotten some good reviews … so, in fact, Gene - the Topic is even MORE germane, NOW, than it was - a year ago.

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Feb 20, 2019 17:58:23   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Incorrect on all counts.

That's a Riley in front and they are not go carts.
Not raining (yet). He is steadying the lens - beside there is a lens hood attached.


A RILEY, huh? … No wonder!!! … They both used to come outta the same plant, in England …

Oh, I see ... so THAT's what he's doing ... thought he was covering the front glass, to keep the rain off!


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Feb 21, 2019 00:09:24   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Yes, the Wizard of Oz reference is new. And yes, just that alone goes a long way toward giving this a folksy little touch and spontaneous feel. When doing market research it is important to see if consumer attitudes have changed over time, of course, so you are obligated to ask the same question repeatedly. Disguising what you are doing is important. But it is, as you say, an age old question that is of interest to people, so I will play along.

Given the choice of Dorothy, lions, scarecrows, tin men, and yellow bricks, I am going to say that the yellow bricks are the least likely to blow away in the wind.

Jan 29, 2018:
It's an age-old argument, isn't it - do heavy lenses (and cams) actually create stability, or do they bring their own kind of instability?

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-510655-1.html

Feb 20, 2019:
Do Heavier (metal) lenses - provide GREATER stability, or do they actually create instability?
It's an age-old argument, isn't it?

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-579468-1.html

If it walks like a duck...

Mike
Yes, the Wizard of Oz reference is new. And yes, ... (show quote)


Yes, but a duck quacks, and I ain't no quack-er!!! … And NEITHER am I involved in Market Research, either - so, please get off it - okay?

I looked at the wording in these two topic titles, again. A year ago, I was referring to heavy hardware in general … BOTH cameras and lenses. This time, I mentioned ONLY heavy lenses - NO cameras - see!!!!

Last time - my objective - was to get folks talking about the weight issue. Whereas, THIS TIME - it was more pointed to lenses … and whether or not a light one was okay to use when it's windy out. Some really long plastic lenses - when fully extended - could catch the breeze, and then - you get blown over. So, maybe - heavier lenses have their place - even though carrying them IS an issue. Get a Grip, Mike!!!!

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